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Apart From What Happened When A Single Mad Person Ploughed Into The Crowd And Killed One Woman And Injuring Others, Were The Far-Right Within Their Rights To Protest Against The Removal Of A Historic Confederate General's Statue?
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I believe they were, and if the Far-Left choose to violently oppose them, then they should be equally laid to blame, without the need for Trump or anyone else be made to blame just one side specifically.
So Mr Sajid Javid and Shadow defence secretary Nia Griffith, stop your talk about the President of the USA defending Neo-Nazis so should not be allowed a State Visit to the UK.
I believe they were, and if the Far-Left choose to violently oppose them, then they should be equally laid to blame, without the need for Trump or anyone else be made to blame just one side specifically.
So Mr Sajid Javid and Shadow defence secretary Nia Griffith, stop your talk about the President of the USA defending Neo-Nazis so should not be allowed a State Visit to the UK.
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I raised this yesterday and true to form the left on here failed to condemn violent and criminal acts attempting instead to try and deflect to the utlra right. Unfortunatel
12:27 Wed 16th Aug 2017
naomi24
It doesn't make others right, but as you yourself have said on AB, we need to understand and appreciate history, otherwise we are apt to make the same mistakes.
This is why I don't feel enmity against those who use violence against people who bring violence to the table.
I honestly can't use the word 'scum' to describe those who use violence against murderers and apologists for murderers.
When you drive a car into a crowd of people, you lose the right to any moral high ground.
It doesn't make others right, but as you yourself have said on AB, we need to understand and appreciate history, otherwise we are apt to make the same mistakes.
This is why I don't feel enmity against those who use violence against people who bring violence to the table.
I honestly can't use the word 'scum' to describe those who use violence against murderers and apologists for murderers.
When you drive a car into a crowd of people, you lose the right to any moral high ground.
An analogy...say you worked with someone who was a violent racist, and who had joined in on an attack on a lone Indian bloke on the way home from the office party.
Now let's say he did it five years in a row and kept bragging about it, but on the sixth year, when he tried the same thing, someone else in the office grabbed him by the lapel, and punched his lights out.
Not killing him, just giving him a taste of his own medicine.
At work on the following Monday, would you say,"There was violence on both sides - they're both scum"?
Or would you be organising a whip round to buy the puncher something nice from Hotel Chocolat?
Now let's say he did it five years in a row and kept bragging about it, but on the sixth year, when he tried the same thing, someone else in the office grabbed him by the lapel, and punched his lights out.
Not killing him, just giving him a taste of his own medicine.
At work on the following Monday, would you say,"There was violence on both sides - they're both scum"?
Or would you be organising a whip round to buy the puncher something nice from Hotel Chocolat?
sp; // I don't feel enmity against those who use violence against people who bring violence to the table.//
But they didn't, they were making a licensed, legal protest march over the statue/park issue and they were attacked by those you wish to support and so they retaliated, nobody comes out of this well, but to continually blame the marchers is wrong.
The person who should be run out of town isn't the guy who organized the protest, but the moron who instigated the removal of the statue in the first place, and he is now smugly proud of himself.
But they didn't, they were making a licensed, legal protest march over the statue/park issue and they were attacked by those you wish to support and so they retaliated, nobody comes out of this well, but to continually blame the marchers is wrong.
The person who should be run out of town isn't the guy who organized the protest, but the moron who instigated the removal of the statue in the first place, and he is now smugly proud of himself.
Was the Far Right, including the KKK within their rights to march chanting Nazi and anti-Jewish slogans, to deliberately antagonise people ?
That's a difficult one....I may need more time to think about an answer.
That's long enough.....No, I agree with past Republican Presidents, Bush, Senior and Junior, who both condemn the Far Right.
That's a difficult one....I may need more time to think about an answer.
That's long enough.....No, I agree with past Republican Presidents, Bush, Senior and Junior, who both condemn the Far Right.
Talbot, the name given to some of the left-wing protesters is "antifa" for "antifascists". I am not sure how you can possibly seriously believe that antifascists came before fascists.
Also, I don't think you can seriously believe that racism only emerged in the US recently -- as opposed to, say, being ingrained into the history of the country from the very beginning, what with slavery and all that.
Also, I don't think you can seriously believe that racism only emerged in the US recently -- as opposed to, say, being ingrained into the history of the country from the very beginning, what with slavery and all that.
Jim, back in the day I attended many rock against racism concerts and there was plenty of anti-facists about, dressed so you knew who they were but these people are not the same people.
If you sp, mikey et al want to champion these thugs vandals and general scum then go for it ... personally I will carry on looking down on them.
If you sp, mikey et al want to champion these thugs vandals and general scum then go for it ... personally I will carry on looking down on them.
-Talbot-
I don't think the far left have ever gotten much of a foothold.
I mean, surely McCarthy put paid to that back in the 50s.
I've always thought that when people refer to the 'far left' in the US, what they really mean is 'liberals'.
Far left has connotations of communism (like 'far right' has connotations of fascism) - and communism simply isn't tolerated in America.
It's the political kiss of death.
I don't think the far left have ever gotten much of a foothold.
I mean, surely McCarthy put paid to that back in the 50s.
I've always thought that when people refer to the 'far left' in the US, what they really mean is 'liberals'.
Far left has connotations of communism (like 'far right' has connotations of fascism) - and communism simply isn't tolerated in America.
It's the political kiss of death.
"These lefty communist idiots were smashing up America and smashing up people who had the effrontery to not vote the correct way long before the racists reared their ugly head."
I don't think it's putting words into your mouth to suggest that this means that racists in the US have been around for less long than communism, which (if it is indeed what you meant) is about as factually inaccurate as you can get.
I don't think it's putting words into your mouth to suggest that this means that racists in the US have been around for less long than communism, which (if it is indeed what you meant) is about as factually inaccurate as you can get.
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