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and yet I'll still be travelling by tube whenever I need to. It's just the normal way to get round London. Buses are slower and no safer, taxis are expensive, and most of it is too far to walk. I'm relieved, of course, but still not particularly scared: it's just one of the things about living in a city, and you take the bad with the good.
as chilldo has commented but has not concluded:
it was an incomplete detonation
the victims describe a white flash and then a burning container
(as Eamonn said - jesus would YOU wait around to photograph an explosive? I would get out!)
and addressing Barmaid as a Judge
"My lady - can I remind your ladyship what a damp squib is?
A squib is a type of firework (= a small container filled with chemicals which explodes to produce bright lights and loud noises) and if it becomes wet, it will not explode.
and so this fulfils the definition four square - I remind my lady photos at the time show the device burnt and did not explode so I would be obliged if her ladyship would resile from her comment. We must rely in court on the facts not on first impressions or prior beliefs!"
[ take a cab everywhere now? we manks took the bus into the centre and had a jolly good poss up shouting - "bring it on!"]
[oh I go for chipatti flour and hydrogen peroxide - that goes phut when it doesnt work]
[oh by the way the commentators are pointing out the chrissy lights in the burning bucket - curiouser and curiouser]
I trust readers will find this comment sufficiently serious so as not to comment about me but perhaps concentrate on the attack - the subject of the thread
it was an incomplete detonation
the victims describe a white flash and then a burning container
(as Eamonn said - jesus would YOU wait around to photograph an explosive? I would get out!)
and addressing Barmaid as a Judge
"My lady - can I remind your ladyship what a damp squib is?
A squib is a type of firework (= a small container filled with chemicals which explodes to produce bright lights and loud noises) and if it becomes wet, it will not explode.
and so this fulfils the definition four square - I remind my lady photos at the time show the device burnt and did not explode so I would be obliged if her ladyship would resile from her comment. We must rely in court on the facts not on first impressions or prior beliefs!"
[ take a cab everywhere now? we manks took the bus into the centre and had a jolly good poss up shouting - "bring it on!"]
[oh I go for chipatti flour and hydrogen peroxide - that goes phut when it doesnt work]
[oh by the way the commentators are pointing out the chrissy lights in the burning bucket - curiouser and curiouser]
I trust readers will find this comment sufficiently serious so as not to comment about me but perhaps concentrate on the attack - the subject of the thread
// Reminds me of 7/7, ...... Horrible day.//
emergency services refused to attend and locked themselves away
Luckily all that has changed after twelve years
BTP HQ was in ..... Tavistock Sq - what did they do ? Lock themselves away and refuse to come out screaming - 'we're following our protocol!' The protocol has been comprehensively er reviewed and rewritten.
I think the initial police report on 7/7 began: 'the day went quite well....'
and one MP insisted that the mismatch between what the public said had occurred on 7/7 and what the emergency services had said had happened was so great there should be a public inquiry. There wasnt one. ( s 18 inquest instead )
step forward one David Davis MP now Brexit negotiator
More people trampled than burnt in todays' [2017] outrageous attempt......
I trust readers will find this comment suffiiciently po-faced.....
emergency services refused to attend and locked themselves away
Luckily all that has changed after twelve years
BTP HQ was in ..... Tavistock Sq - what did they do ? Lock themselves away and refuse to come out screaming - 'we're following our protocol!' The protocol has been comprehensively er reviewed and rewritten.
I think the initial police report on 7/7 began: 'the day went quite well....'
and one MP insisted that the mismatch between what the public said had occurred on 7/7 and what the emergency services had said had happened was so great there should be a public inquiry. There wasnt one. ( s 18 inquest instead )
step forward one David Davis MP now Brexit negotiator
More people trampled than burnt in todays' [2017] outrageous attempt......
I trust readers will find this comment suffiiciently po-faced.....
if you dont understand the posts dont read them
Beeb mentioning TATP - tri-acetone - tri summit peroxide
dont look this up - you will get a visit from the police
One of the explosives which is oxygen rich and very unstable
GCHQ apparently hack the sites and readjust the recipes.....
I hope readers will accept I am posting about the possible explosives used ( perhaps not ) - and please please keep on thread and not onto me
Beeb mentioning TATP - tri-acetone - tri summit peroxide
dont look this up - you will get a visit from the police
One of the explosives which is oxygen rich and very unstable
GCHQ apparently hack the sites and readjust the recipes.....
I hope readers will accept I am posting about the possible explosives used ( perhaps not ) - and please please keep on thread and not onto me
Interesting question ymb.
Of course, we have no information as to the answer yet. But just speculating without any information (and hey, that's all we can really do at this point), this seems to be very against type for the usual Islamic attacks, as they have tended away from using bombs over the last few years for various reasons (and when they do use them, they rarely leave them - with some exceptions like Madrid). This could well turn out to be a Thomas Mair-style attack.
Of course, we have no information as to the answer yet. But just speculating without any information (and hey, that's all we can really do at this point), this seems to be very against type for the usual Islamic attacks, as they have tended away from using bombs over the last few years for various reasons (and when they do use them, they rarely leave them - with some exceptions like Madrid). This could well turn out to be a Thomas Mair-style attack.
Dreadful time for all concerned & my thoughts are with them, however - "We have taken 18 patients to a number of London hospitals. None are thought to be in a serious or life-threatening condition" - that's good news & @ jno - I'm glad Jnr is ok.
Less edifying to my mind are (so far uncorroborated) statements, such as -
"...one woman [said] she had to walk over other people who fell on the platform to get out of the Tube train."
"People weren't even running, they were literally crawling over one another and just fleeing I guess..."
"...There were people lying underneath getting crushed... There was a pregnant woman underneath me, and I was trying really hard not to crush her... The injuries from the stampede seemed the worst..."
Frightened people, I understand. What I don't get is what those statements suggest was the attitude of "make yourself safe" (reasonable) while ignoring the plight of those around you & possibly adding further injuries (unreasonable). I'm sure the truths will out & hope things weren't as bad as they've been painted in such reports.
Less edifying to my mind are (so far uncorroborated) statements, such as -
"...one woman [said] she had to walk over other people who fell on the platform to get out of the Tube train."
"People weren't even running, they were literally crawling over one another and just fleeing I guess..."
"...There were people lying underneath getting crushed... There was a pregnant woman underneath me, and I was trying really hard not to crush her... The injuries from the stampede seemed the worst..."
Frightened people, I understand. What I don't get is what those statements suggest was the attitude of "make yourself safe" (reasonable) while ignoring the plight of those around you & possibly adding further injuries (unreasonable). I'm sure the truths will out & hope things weren't as bad as they've been painted in such reports.
