Why Is The No 1 Nation So Barbaric In Their Health Care?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41607747
So the last remnants of the last attempt to civilise the US will no doubt be swept away in a retrograde step.. USA how can you claim to be "The greatest country on earth" with your disgusting approach medicine for your own people?

[jim360]

At least in part, it probably hearkens back to an age where anything even remotely socialist was instantly the first step on the road to Communism. I am not sure that the Republican Party has entirely moved on from that attitude. More broadly it's probably something to do with fear of big government, states' rights v. Federal control, etc...

[ToraToraTora]

jim have you seen this film? Moore is the US version of a left winger and no doubt you and others on here would find it strange that I ally with him on this subject but really I have huge sympathy with the subject:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/?ref_=nv_sr_1

[jim360]

Nah, never seen it.

Also yes, I am a little surprised but actually I wasn't going to comment on it until you mentioned it yourself.

[douglas9401]

Michael Moore, left winger, Mikey, I wonder..........................:-)

[bednobs]

surely no-one thinks that the US is the world's leading nation anymore?

[jim360]

I think it's still the leading nation, just at different, less noteworthy things from before...

[ToraToraTora]

not in health care anyway bednobs!

[ToraToraTora]

TBF though almost no country in the world is civilised in this area.

[Bazile]

I get the feeling that Trump just does not like Obama and wants to repeal anything done by Obama , Full stop .

[whiskeryron]

This is the land of the free( where some are freer than others) if you are white middle class & have plenty of dollars welcome. If you is Black, Hispanic Native American or simply poor, man you got no chance. I used to love the good old US of A. Now I hold my hands up in horror. What has happened to our cousins over the pond ?

[ludwig]

Sad, but what can you do. It's America's problem. The important thing is that we don't let it happen here.

[Gromit]

Trump has managed to sink ObamaCare with a wave of his pen, signing an Executive Order. He was forced to do that because his own Party will not or cannot reform it

What Trump said last year about Presidential Executive Orders:

// ...using executive orders proves politicians can't work together to strike deals.

"I don't think he even tries anymore," Trump said of President Barack Obama in December 2015. "I think he just signs executive actions."

A month later, as contests in Iowa and New Hampshire loomed, Trump said Obama's executive orders show he "doesn't talk to anybody." //

Obama averaged 34 EOs a year during his 8 year Presidency. Trump has signed 68 in 8 months.

[jim360]

Calling Trump out on his blatant hypocrisy is clearly unfair. :/

[mikey4444]

You are 100% correct TTT, so it beggers the question why so many Americans voted for Trump in the first place ?

Especially for those amongst his core supporters who are out of work and therefore have no insurance based health care.

[Zacs-Master]

Never was there a better demonstration that the Feudal system is still working in the 21st century western world.

[youngmafbog]

The problem was that it was badly implemented and needed reforming. But as pointed out the Republicans aint gonna let that happen.

It's a difficult one, can you imagine the cost of the NHS if in the US? It just wouldn't work. Not sure what the anawer is to be honest.

[mikey4444]

YMB.......it was a difficult thing here in Britain, in 1948 but Aneurin Bevan still managed to get it to happen.

I appreciate that Britain was, and still is, a much smaller country than America. But America is immeasurably wealthier than we are, and could just as easily have managed something similar.

We were completely broke after WW2, and yet it still happened. Bevan was once asked how he persuaded the Doctors to go ahead, because without them it would never have got off the ground.

He replied that "he filled their mouths with gold"

[Spicerack]

O'Bama care didn't work, for anyone.

[KARL]

Anyone can, and does, claim to be best, etc. regardless of any evidence against the claim - the point is that saying it brashly enough, loudly enough, often enough for long enough actually succeeds in convincing lots of people. In spite of the appalling inequalities, cruelty, violence, etc. in the USA, millions still try to reach the place (legally or illegally) thinking their lives will be trouble free once they do. The USA is but one example of similar claimants, sometimes/often including (by people in) the UK.

[EDDIE51]

I gave up on even visiting the USA when I discovered that even in the event of a terrorist attack like 9/11 the free emergency medical treatment is limited to stabilizing your condition ONLY.
In other words if you are unfortunate enough to have a leg blown off by a terrorist bomb, the US Emergency health service will stop the bleeding and dress the wound only! All else is up to you to pay for.
As almost no health insurance policy will include injury due to terrorist or criminal acts you are st***ed .Thousands of people who have been injured in criminal or terror attacks have been bankrupted by the medical bills they have had to pay.