Wonder Why No Team Will Hire This Eejit!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/41630253
let's see, embarrass the team, embarrass the country, opt out of your own contract with one of the great NFL teams and wonder why he isn't getting hired! PMSL no one is bigger than the sport itself sunshine!

[jim360]

Contrast, though, with the NFL's policy on hiring players accused of, or guilty of, domestic violence:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-nfl-sexual-assault-violence-20170502-story.html

I'm not particularly in the mood to go down that rabbit hole too far, but the point is that if indeed the NFL were, as you say, not hiring this "eejit" because of his protest, then it's a massive double standard, is it not, to turn a blind eye to the other lot?

[ToraToraTora]

perhaps jim but but should we/he be surprised that they wont touch with a barge pole? How can NFL teams be sued for not hiring him, surely even in the US an organisation has the right to hire who they want.

[jim360]

There are discrimination laws in the US too. I am not sure if Kaepernick's case will, or even should, be successful, at least partly because I'm not fully aware of US law in this.

At any rate, if not hiring him was an attempt to quash the protest then it's not really succeeding.

[jim360]

Also I should add that 2016 was, apparently, one of Kaepernick's best personally, so it's not clear that the NFL teams can claim that he's not been hired because of incompetence (which would be a pretty good reason or cover). The various people mentioned in the link I gave are not exactly pleasant characters either and indeed could potentially be guilty of actual crimes, but the NFL tolerates that anyway because they are presumably good players.

So it is with Kaepernick, or so it ought to be. That he's not been drafted at all, despite being still a good player, does seem rather puzzling.

[cassa333]

Too late to stop further protest but perhaps he is a bit of a troublemaker in any case!

It might be like the nightmare Diva not getting a part because she is so hard to work with.

[jackthehat]

Yes, puzzling isn't it?
Cause embarrassment without physical harm and be snubbed. Perhaps he ought to go down the route of many NFL players (past and present) and commit criminal acts or ruin someone's life....?

[Gromit]

(A lot of if's warning)
If (I don't know) he is a good player, then it seems odd that teams that have a vacancy are not signing him. So he may have a case that he is being excluded.
If the team owners are colluding to exclude him, and if that is against the rules (or the law) then he will win the case.
If he cannot prove it, then he will lose.
And he is not an idiot for making a peaceful protest, that apparently is not against the rules.

[melv16]

//And he is not an idiot for making a peaceful protest, that apparently is not against the rules//

It would be in N Korea, Russia or Nazi Germany. Any subversion in those countries would be quickly dealt with...

[Gromit]

Melv,
Are you comparing the USA with N Korea, Russia or Nazi Germany ?

[melv16]

Not at all, gromit. In a free democratic you should be able to make a peaceful protest without condemnation from the powers that be.

[Bazile]

The hand of Trump is behind this , obviously

[Spicerack]

Strange that jack and Jim should turn the spotlight on all the NFL thugs,,,,,now 'taking the knee' in the name of decency.
Does anyone else find it interesting that Kaepernick? has never registered to vote.

[jim360]

I don't know what the overlap is between the "thugs" in the NFL and the protesters, but I should imagine that there are at least a few players who don't fit into both categories (and rather a lot who don't fit into either).

But that rather misses the point I was making -- deliberately missing it, at a guess -- that it's nonsensical to exclude someone protesting from teams on the grounds that it gives your team a bad image, while simultaneously turning a blind eye to those players who *are* thugs, or are abusive at home.

You can't sidestep genuine accusations of double standards in such a cynical way as spicerack was trying.

[Gromit]

// Does anyone else find it interesting that Kaepernick? has never registered to vote. //

I do. He is fighting the system, not one party or one President. He thinks the Republicans AND the Demoncrats are part of a system that oppresses black people, and therefore it wpuld be hypicritical to vote for either of them. In terms you might understand, he chose 'No Deal' with the politicians, rather than a 'Bad Deal'.

[youngmafbog]

So if he is so big and his ideas are so popular why doesnt he form a Party representing these ideas?

I strongly suspect he is being snubbed because he is a trouble maker and not a team player. Does not matter how good you are individually if you split the team.

Due to his actions I doubt he will be able to prove any case of 'discrimination' there are too many valid reasons not to employ him.

[Spicerack]

Some of the owners reckon they'll sack players who disrespect the flag in future.
It will be most interesting to see if players choose to rejoin their brothers in the ghettos or their multi-million dollar contracts.
Can't wait.

[jim360]

"It will be most interesting to see if players choose to rejoin their brothers in the ghettos or their multi-million dollar contracts.
Can't wait."

But surely you're not saying that it might be pragmatically wiser not to stick up for your principles in the interests of continuing a potentially lucrative footballing career?

[youngmafbog]

Many people have to bite their tongue to keep their job jim simply to keep putting food on the table.

Why shouldn't they?

[jim360]

No reason at all.

Although if certain actresses decided to "bite their tongue" for similar reasons, suddenly that's a problem?