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Unwanted Attention
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I am getting a little exasperated by all this #metoo stuff.
This woman http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -englan d-brist ol-4195 1618 says she has had unwanted attention from him for years and 'doesn't respond and hasn't encouraged him in any way'. But I wonder did he write to her in the way he did because she didn't put a stop to it?
If it had been going on for so long, why? A simple 'come on you silly boy stop it this isn't appropriate' a few times and 'would your wife like to see these letters' would likely have made him stop and think but to say nothing doesn't let him know you don't want the attention.
Did he regard it as 'office banter' and in view of not being told to stop it knew no better?
I'm not saying she hasn't been harassed in some way but if someone does something for many years without getting a slap (metaphorical or not) then why not?
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If it had been going on for so long, why? A simple 'come on you silly boy stop it this isn't appropriate' a few times and 'would your wife like to see these letters' would likely have made him stop and think but to say nothing doesn't let him know you don't want the attention.
Did he regard it as 'office banter' and in view of not being told to stop it knew no better?
I'm not saying she hasn't been harassed in some way but if someone does something for many years without getting a slap (metaphorical or not) then why not?
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I used to be a trustee for a community centre and the centre manager and one particular member of staff had been there years and had an easy banter about them.
They would chide and insult each other and such like. When I spoke to the manager he said it was OK because they knew each other so well. I pointed out everything they said to each other could, if things went sour between them and to an outside observer be seen and construed as inappropriate.
So what I am really saying is sometimes it is reciprocal and usual banter ... until!!
I used to be a trustee for a community centre and the centre manager and one particular member of staff had been there years and had an easy banter about them.
They would chide and insult each other and such like. When I spoke to the manager he said it was OK because they knew each other so well. I pointed out everything they said to each other could, if things went sour between them and to an outside observer be seen and construed as inappropriate.
So what I am really saying is sometimes it is reciprocal and usual banter ... until!!
I'm getting exasperated too; not so much by the stories, but by the realisation day after day that we are not shifting attitudes fast enough.
In this example, he can write to her, bother her for years, behave like a 14 year old with a crush, and now claim that the stress of being exposed is affecting his health. And ....people are enquiring whether its her fault for not putting a stop to it? Please, think about it.
In this example, he can write to her, bother her for years, behave like a 14 year old with a crush, and now claim that the stress of being exposed is affecting his health. And ....people are enquiring whether its her fault for not putting a stop to it? Please, think about it.
It has crossed my mind that some women may actually feel annoyed that they have not been the victim of unwanted attention. They may feel that it means they are not thought as attractive as those who do get it.
But I was reluctant to post it as I thought it would be viewed as too sexist or Non PC.
Where does paying a member of the opposite sex a compliment on how they look become 'unwanted attention'?
But I was reluctant to post it as I thought it would be viewed as too sexist or Non PC.
Where does paying a member of the opposite sex a compliment on how they look become 'unwanted attention'?
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She's not making a formal complaint. She's backing up and supporting other complaints.
If I were in her shoes I'd do he same thing.
I can handle 'banter' and 'suck up' any comments made towards me but clearly other people can't. If someone made a complaint about inappropriate comments/actions against someone who had done something similar to me and the accused denied it. I'd come forward to make it known that they are very capable of doing what they've been accused of doing.
If I were in her shoes I'd do he same thing.
I can handle 'banter' and 'suck up' any comments made towards me but clearly other people can't. If someone made a complaint about inappropriate comments/actions against someone who had done something similar to me and the accused denied it. I'd come forward to make it known that they are very capable of doing what they've been accused of doing.
It seems to be the latest trend to say that you've been the victim of sexual harrassment / assault / or unwanted attention. It makes you wonder how many times good old fashioned flattery is twisted into something dark and demonic.
Every single day someone new in Hollywood is being accused of historical offences. Yes there are sexual predators out there and they come in every shape, size and class, but very soon there won't be a male celebrity or Politician left untainted.
Every single day someone new in Hollywood is being accused of historical offences. Yes there are sexual predators out there and they come in every shape, size and class, but very soon there won't be a male celebrity or Politician left untainted.
If this statement from Mr Hopkins is true:
"I cannot understand why a parliamentarian of such experience and standing, who is also such a long-term friend, would not have told me that she was unhappy with any aspect of our friendship rather than going straight to the national press,"
Then they are a pair of pillocks. He for continually contacting her for no real reason and she for not giving him a verbal knee in the crotch.
“This woman has been 'dealing with it' for 20 years,….”
But she clearly hasn’t been “dealing with it”:
"I never responded in any way, I never gave him any encouragement in any way, I tried to keep my distance as much as possible," she said.
“She said she decided to go public after the "bravery" of a young activist, Ava Etemadzadeh, who complained last week about the behaviour of Mr Hopkins.”
So a “young activist” shows more balls than a 52 year old career politician who once held a prominent post in the Shadow Cabinet. It strikes me that she caught sight of a bandwagon upon which she could jump to put the boot in. I hold no brief for men (or women) who behave badly towards others. But I also hold no brief for people who put up with "unwanted attention" for decades before crawling from the woodwork to air their grievances on the back of someone else’s complaints – especially when they are senior politicians who should be robust enough to deal with the perceived problems themselves.
"I cannot understand why a parliamentarian of such experience and standing, who is also such a long-term friend, would not have told me that she was unhappy with any aspect of our friendship rather than going straight to the national press,"
Then they are a pair of pillocks. He for continually contacting her for no real reason and she for not giving him a verbal knee in the crotch.
“This woman has been 'dealing with it' for 20 years,….”
But she clearly hasn’t been “dealing with it”:
"I never responded in any way, I never gave him any encouragement in any way, I tried to keep my distance as much as possible," she said.
“She said she decided to go public after the "bravery" of a young activist, Ava Etemadzadeh, who complained last week about the behaviour of Mr Hopkins.”
So a “young activist” shows more balls than a 52 year old career politician who once held a prominent post in the Shadow Cabinet. It strikes me that she caught sight of a bandwagon upon which she could jump to put the boot in. I hold no brief for men (or women) who behave badly towards others. But I also hold no brief for people who put up with "unwanted attention" for decades before crawling from the woodwork to air their grievances on the back of someone else’s complaints – especially when they are senior politicians who should be robust enough to deal with the perceived problems themselves.