Where Do Your Sympathies Lie In This Situation?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-41996972
I know the noise would do my loaf in but at the same time I sympathise with parents trying look after a crying baby.

[Sqad]

^^^^^.? Hungarian? ^^^^
You mean that they could have been Granville's relatives.?

[New Judge]

"I honestly can't see people taking exception to a baby crying."

I can. It's one of the most irritating noises known. It is especially designed to be that way so that whatever problem the infant is suffering from is swiftly addressed.

[Barmaid]

NoM. Unfortunately, people do take such exception. Some of the cases I have seen have had people complaining about the most ridiculous things. Krov got it bang on its about "rights on paper". I've seen people complain about nothing simply because they took a dislike to their new neighbour. People, unfortunately can be unpleasant.

[ummmm]

It's not a baby. It's a toddler!

[NoMercy]

TTT's OP says, "crying baby."

[ludwig]

There is alot we don't know about this story.

There are people who believe babies should be left to cry without being attended to, basically until they shut up, however long that takes, and that this is in some way good for them. This couple could be a pair of these weirdos for all we know.

It could also be the case that the noise isn't actually that bad, but the neighbours just don't like the couple and are being malicious.

I wouldn't be too sanctimonious about it one way or the other without knowing all the facts.

[Barmaid]

I think that's fair, Ludwig.

According to report child is 15 months old. Dad is a vet. Other child is 3. and there have been "other noise complaints".

[Cloverjo]

I sympathise with the neighbours.

I have lived next to very noisy people who drove me nuts. If it had just been the sound of a crying baby I would have been sympathetic as my son used to wake up and cry lots of times a night.

However, with my neighbours, as soon as their baby was awake and crying at 4am their loud music and shouting would start for the day and on into the evening.

[ummmm]

NoM...I was going by the article. A 15 month old is not a crying baby.

[hereIam]

I am definitely on the neighbours side.

[andy-hughes]

Ludwig - // There are people who believe babies should be left to cry without being attended to, basically until they shut up, however long that takes, and that this is in some way good for them. This couple could be a pair of these weirdos for all we know. //

I think Ludwig raises a valid point here.

Babies cry for a reason - all you have to do is find out the reason, address it, and the crying stops.

Fortunately, babies are not complex creatures, so a few simple explorations will usually find the reason for baby's distress -

hungry / thirsty / dirty / pain with wind / over-tired / hot / cold / bored / lost dummy / feels like a cuddle ..

and you can explore all those situations in about one and a half minutes, and address them in two minutes, and baby will stop crying.

There is the old wives' tale that a baby is 'exercising her lungs ...' which is obviously bonkers.

Babies communicate every wish and need by crying - learn to recognise your baby's different cries, and sort out what they need, and they either go to sleep, or remain awake and contented.

It's just parenthood - if people don't do it instinctively, they need to learn.

[Barmaid]

A-H I wouldnt post that point of view on mumsnet if I were you. You'll get hunted down and torn limb from limb. Although I do find the idea that you can stop a baby crying in 3.5 mins breathtaking.

[jno]

all you have to do is find out the reason

ah yes!

[ummmm]

Didn't think of that. That's where I went wrong!

[andy-hughes]

Barmaid - // A-H I wouldnt post that point of view on mumsnet if I were you. You'll get hunted down and torn limb from limb. Although I do find the idea that you can stop a baby crying in 3.5 mins breathtaking. //

I accept that my post may have over-simplified the reasons for crying babies, and does not by any means address all of the reasons why a baby cries - but it does address the most obvious and common reasons, you I think would agree.

[ummmm]

Andy - this isn't a baby in the article. It's a toddler and a young child.

[Jackdaw33]

I'm between a rock and a hard place here, but seeing that, as has been said, if the reasons for crying were swiftly addressed it would soon stop, so I must come down on the side of the neighbours.

[horseshoes]

......... "works as a vet but can't afford to buy"

Really?

[jourdain2]

Horseshoes has just said what I was thinking. Vets are not on basic wages. I think they said that they could not afford to buy 'in London. The solution presents itself.
Get a job out of London -vets are in demand everywhere, the children are not settled in a school. Perfectly feasible to buy a house on a vet's salary. Think outside the box, parents!