She Certainly Wont Do Life.

[webbo3]

https://news.sky.com/story/16-year-old-girl-gets-life-sentence-for-killing-katie-rough-7-11141525

She probably wont do that much time just like Bulgers killers.


\\The judge ordered the 16-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, to be detained for a minimum of five years in what he described as a "truly exceptional case"//.

How can a minimum of five years be life.



Dave.

[mikey4444]

Webbo....It would seem to me that this girl is not right in the head....she needs treatment of some kind.

[Baldric]

Talk about stating the Bleeding Obvious!

[webbo3]

I agree but she COULD be out in just over 5 years.

[Mamyalynne]

It is not until five years have passed that the sentence will come up for reconsideration, based on the scant knowledge we have I very much doubt things will have changed for this teenager.

[anneasquith]

If she was " not right in the head " , she would not have stood trial surely. Is it possible this young woman is just evil ?

[Mamyalynne]

It's quite possible, pity those treating and medicating her for delusions didn't spot that if so.

[webbo3]

I dont understand why she was given life with a minimum of 5 years, why not longer.?

[douglas9401]

It'll have something to do with us not having all the facts, Webbo, the usual.

[pixie374]

It does say she suffered from delusions. Perhaps they need a proper assessment before they make a longer-term decision. It is a minimum. Very sad case, though.

[Mamyalynne]

Someone versed in the Legal terms will explain soon I'm sure,and/or a transcript of the ruling.

[emmie]

as an aside Jon Venables is back in prison.

[ummmm]

There is a good chance she'll be sectioned. If she is suffering from mental illness and the crime was truly down to diminished responsibility then she 'may' be able to be treated with medication/psychiatric care. I assume that's why the minimum is so low.

On the other hand...being sectioned could also mean she'll serve much longer. People, especially the young, are quickly institutionalised.

[Gromit]

I could not read all this news report, it was so horrible. The murderer has something wrong, but people warned and were ignored.
Have the authorities got blood on their hands too, because it sounds like this was a crime that could have been prevented.

[BAKERS DOZEN]

I have always been under the impression that the 16yr old was her sister. If so that would be a double tragedy for the family.

[andy-hughes]

As advised, the convicted person will be re-assessed in five years - which is a major length of time in terms of development for a sixteen-year-old.

Also as advised, it is highly likely that she will not be released, this initial sentence is a 'holding pattern' while informed decisions can be made about what is best in the interests of the public, and the teenager.

[youngmafbog]

Maybe Andy, but dont you think that it sends the wrong message?

5 years for this crime just does not sit right.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - // Maybe Andy, but dont you think that it sends the wrong message?

5 years for this crime just does not sit right. //

Personally, I don't think any sentence for murder 'sends a message' because I don't believe anyone ever murders anyone having first pondered the consequences, and assessed their possible punishment.

Murderers are either spur-of-the-moment individuals who would probably never do the same thing again ever, or sociopaths who don't think of consequences.

I have never believed that incarceration for murder is about deterring other people from doing the same thing.

[murraymints]

tragedy, sad for the detainee too

[douglas9401]

"I don't believe anyone ever murders anyone having first pondered the consequences, and assessed their possible punishment."



There are producers of real-life police reconstruction programmes, you know, the ones that have to dub on a siren every time you see a police car, who have made fortunes, mostly in the US but here too who would dispute your belief if the reported intricate planning by 'the perp' is true.
Anyhoo, while she's locked away she's less likely to go on a spree so that's some comfort.

[andy-hughes]

douglas - // There are producers of real-life police reconstruction programmes, you know, the ones that have to dub on a siren every time you see a police car, who have made fortunes, mostly in the US but here too who would dispute your belief if the reported intricate planning by 'the perp' is true. //

A fair point, so allow me to refine my position -

Every single person who plans to murder someone else does so in the unshakeable belief that they are going to get away with it - so as I have pointed out, pondering the potential sentence waiting, and allowing it to stay their hand, is simply not part of the process.

I have said previously - if anyone seriously thought they would be caught and punished for committing a crime, then there would be no criminals - but they don't.