Anti-Semitic? No Problem For Labour Leaders

[naomi24]

//Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell attended the launch of the Labour Muslim Network whose executive includes Ali Milani, who has previously said Israel has 'no right to exist'.//

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5172295/Corbyn-posed-activist-held-anti-Semitic-views.html

Yet another incidence in an increasingly long line of incidences. I can’t help thinking this is all becoming rather sinister.

[naomi24]

Krom, who says what rather than what is said appears to be the criteria by which you construct your responses around this forum. Mr Trump for example is vilified on a regular basis for something he said in private 10 (or was it 12?) years ago, and yet this man’s hateful bile spilt on a public forum is excused as ‘a tad extreme’ and ‘silly off-colour tweets 5 years ago’ – and the fact that Jeremy Corbyn and his sidekick McDonnell are supporting him brushed aside as ‘scraping the barrel’. See what I mean?

[ToraToraTora]

no problem? It's a pre requisite!

[Kromovaracun]

Not really, as Trump was boasting about groping and assaulting women. This student made a couple of tweets joking about jews being a bit tight with money and is against Israel (gasp). One is slightly off-colour, said effectively in public and not criminal, one is more disturbing and said on mic when he thought nobody else was listening. There's quite a profound difference. Nice try, though.

[naomi24]

Haha! I knew you'd make it right, Krom. As I said, par for the course. ;o)

[Khandro]

Kromo; //....and is against Israel (gasp). //
Yes, gasp you might! You post that as if it was mere trivia.

[Togo]

""Against Israel"" Read, "has no right to exist" for that.

[Kromovaracun]

Khandro

I have no stake in the israel/palestine issue and do not share the obsession with it displayed by left and right. It does not shock or horrify me that someone should think Israel should not have been created, and I don't see why it should.

Naomi

The two situations are different... so I react to them differently.

[Togo]

// It does not shock or horrify me that someone should think Israel should not have been created, and I don't see why it should. //

The methods to see that it ceases to exist probably wouldn't either then I suppose.

[Kromovaracun]

Did this student call for genocide then Togo? Can't see him doing it in the Mail article.

[dannyk13]

Labour Party de facto policy makers in waiting - Momemtum

[Kromovaracun]

(Also, opining that something should not have been created is not the same thing as wishing its destruction. But you already knew that.)

[Khandro]

Kromo; He didn't say it 'shouldn't have been created', the article says;

"...........He also sent messages stating that 'Israel has no right to exist'
If he thinks it has no right to exist, then it follows that he would wish it removed wouldn't you say?
9.5 million people, of which he, like you probably, doesn't know a single one of them, in a country (re-) created before he was born.
He is, like his snake-in-the grass leader, an anti Semitic racist and a supporter of the terrorist organizations, Hezbollah and Hamas, why don't you accept it?

[Buenchico]

For Khandro:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/ray-filar/why-i-am-antizionist-jew

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/thousands-of-anti-zionist-jews-rally-in-support-of-conscientious-objectors-to-the-israeli-army-300472123.html

http://www.nkusa.org/

[Khandro]

Yeah, they're p issed off because their way of avoiding national service (by pretending to be ultra orthodox) has been rused. Believe, me they wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
They are not anti-Zionists they are anti-government

[Buenchico]

>>> they wouldn't want to live anywhere else

Well that's odd because my third link above goes to the website of Neturei Karta in the USA and my Youtube link shows their members in London!

[Kromovaracun]

//He is, like his snake-in-the grass leader, an anti Semitic racist and a supporter of the terrorist organizations, Hezbollah and Hamas, why don't you accept it?//

Because the DM has provided no evidence of jew-hating - which is what anti-Semitism means, and therefore what they are saying he's guilty of. Which is why I think this is a bit of a non-story, considering he is a bit of a jumped-up nobody who appears to have wandered into a photoshoot with Corbyn.

No, saying something "doesn't have the right to exist" doesn't mean "remove it" or "kill/displace everyone inside." Re: terrorism, the likelihood of a student anti-Israel campaigner supporting Hamas/Hezbollah from the comfort of an armchair is (unfortunately) quite high (though as yet unconfirmed in this case), which is one of the many reasons I refuse to 'take a side' in the toxic issue.

[Togo]

The youngsters of Israel wish not to serve in an armed force.....bad?
At least they are not trying to blow themselves up with as many innocent bystanders as possible. Also bad? Meehh.

[Khandro]

Kromo; //Hamas/Hezbollah from the comfort of an armchair is (unfortunately) quite high (though as yet unconfirmed in this case), which is one of the many reasons I refuse to 'take a side' in the toxic issue.//

I think it is pretty clear that you have already taken a side, hence your original "gasp".

Chris, those little w-ankers, where ever they are with their cardboard signs, are just draft dodgers, and you are on record of wishing Israel to be wiped of the face of the earth, so we can all draw our own conclusions as to your motivations.

[Kromovaracun]

//
I think it is pretty clear that you have already taken a side//

Hardly surprising, that's what everyone who is obsessed with this issue always says. But I really haven't, I won't touch it, it's pure poison.