Parliamentary Vote On The Final Eu Exit Deal

[lindapalmara]

If MPs vote against the final deal on Brexit, what happens then?

[Old_Geezer]

If they reject the deal as beibg a bad one then we are left with no deal and surely we revert to WTO rules.

[Old_Geezer]

BEING
!!!!!!!!!

[jourdain2]

If the EU indulge in brinksmanship, as they did over Ireland, then there may not be time to organise a vote. A great opportunity for them to cause mischief. Otherwise, as O_G says, we go with no deal, which is why we should prepare for WTO rules and negotiate trade deals elsewhere, timed to become effective immediately upon us leaving.

[youngmafbog]

No doubt many remainers see it as a way of scuppering BREXIT through the back door. I suspect many will see it as "No deal so no brexit".

[mikey4444]

It will have to go back and be-negotiated !

[naomi24]

YMB, I agree .... although I never did expect the Brexiters not to be screwed.

[jim360]

So far there have been 36 votes on Brexit-related legislation and the government has won 35 of them. There's no justification for this paranoia about Remainers trying to sabotage Brexit. If they'd really wanted that then the EU (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill, the one that triggered Article 50, would have been the best opportunity, and that passed convincingly.

Anyway, what happens after such a vote hasn't been decided yet, technically. But it will be up to Parliament to decide. Most likely it will lead to leaving on a "No deal" basis.

[naomi24]

Jim, //There's no justification for this paranoia about Remainers trying to sabotage Brexit. //

Crikey! What have you been reading for the past 18 months?

[jim360]

I've been reading all the votes that have gone in favour of Brexit.

[naomi24]

.., and doing your best to ignore them.

[jim360]

I genuinely have no idea what you even mean by that.

[naomi24]

Right ....

[jim360]

I live in hope that, one day, you'll actually explain what you mean rather than tail off into ellipses.

[New Judge]

“If MPs vote against the final deal on Brexit, what happens then?”

I would like to think it means that we simply leave with no "deal" but it’s something that has not been explained to the electorate (but then, why should they need to know?)

“There's no justification for this paranoia about Remainers trying to sabotage Brexit.”

Yes there is. The paranoia is not that we will not leave at all but that we will “leave” but remain in everything but name. Thusfar the Prime Minister has capitulated to every major demand that the EU has made. The only “concession” that the EU has made is a minor one on the matter of the continued jurisdiction on the ECJ and a “fudge” on the matter of the Irish border.

There is no reason to believe this strategy will change when the “negotiations” about a trade deal take place. The EU has made it clear that the UK cannot expect to cherry pick the bits of EU membership they wish to retain (and this is perfectly reasonable and understandable). For some inexplicable reason the UK team seems petrified of “crashing out” of the Union (albeit with almost three years notice). To this end they seem prepared to accede to almost any demand the EU makes. These demands will almost certainly stretch to freedom of movement, continued payments, further influence of the ECJ and “alignment” with EU laws. This would be effectively membership in all but name and is not what people who chose to leave voted for. That’s where the paranoia kicks in.

[dannyk13]

//. These demands will almost certainly stretch to freedom of movement, continued payments, further influence of the ECJ and “alignment” with EU laws//
In other words everything that was the reason for the result of the referendum being to leave.

[New Judge]

Exactly, danny.

That's where the paranoia that Jim insists is unjustified originates from. A better term to cover it might be "sold down the river".

[Old_Geezer]

Renegotiation is not really an option. The EU aren't going to relent and give ground if they've already agreed a deal. And we can't postpone exit indefinitely by continually rejecting any agreement. It has to be out immediately, no ransom to pay, and Eire can argue with their EU masters about the border.

[dannyk13]

The rebllious Tory MP's should be made to tor the Party line,If rhat should lead to a General Election, so be it. Anything is better than the present debacle.

[Peter Pedant]

it seems from these answers that no one has the first idea

(kinda like when we voted to leave)

[naomi24]

^There you go, Jim.