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OG - "Wealth is created by the workers. Managment etc. are facilitators...."

What utter and complete nonsense - frankly bordering on imbecilic.

Management have the foresight, expertise and skill to create an environment in which their services or products they are clever enough to provide allow workers to help deliver those products or services to help create wealth for the business owners, a salary for the managers and a wage for the workers.

They are all interdependent (although in reality it is easier to replace a worker than it is a business driver).

To suggest the workers are the sole wealth creators shows a staggering lack of anything even approaching any business nous.

Your thinking is of weapons grade naivety.
deskdiary; Are you not confusing 'management" with entrepreneurs?
the former take direction from above and administer it, but it's the latter who often take great risks in order to create the badly needed jobs.
Khandro

No I'm not - Steve Jobs and Wozniak may have been the visionaries, but its the management that have made Apple the powerhouse it is now through their business acumen.

There will be people who will point out the current Toys R Us woes as management incompetence, and they may be correct, but for every failed or failing business, I will give you 100 successful businesses where the management play a vital role in their continued success.

The workers are vital to any successful enterprise, but to suggest they are solely responsible for the creation of wealth is stupid in the extreme.
desk diary; Of course good management is an essential requirement of a successful business, but they risk little beyond their jobs (and bonuses).
The entrepreneur who put them there may have taken huge gambles to achieve his/her success. Trump has been bankrupted more than once and had to fight back.
I completely agree.

The issue I had was with OG essentially dismissing managers and crediting all the wealth creation with the 'workers'.
$1 Trillion Dollars divided by the US adult population comes to $4,500 each. So if they are only getting $1,000, someone is robbing them. Oh, yeeha, it’s Trump and his $15,000,000 cut.
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Gromit

That is the communistic instinct coming out of you Gromit.
"communistic instinct"
Hey! that's a great idea, why has no one tried that?

All we have to do, is take ALL the money from EVERYONE and share it out EVENLY. Inequality problem solved at a stroke?
Got it one Comrade Khandro, do you want Brother Corbyns number? Gromit probably has it.

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