Turpin: Shackled Siblings Found In Perris, California Home

[mikey4444]

Amazing and horrible story from America ( where else )

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42698562

[pixie374]

Can't really say a lot to that, except there are some very sick people about. Thank God they've been found.

[waterboatman]

I agree pix.

[youngmafbog]

How on earth did this go undetected? Some questions need to be asked once the parents have been locked away, hopefully for good.

[mikey4444]

Whenever I hear the words "home-schooled" I start to worry.

[youngmafbog]

I know Mickey, you wold think alarm bells would ring in the authorities ears too wouldn't you?

[mikey4444]

One of the difference with this family and other similar ones is that they didn't hide themselves away, at least not at first.

You can see on the BBC link, you that they used to have a Facebook page.

[youngmafbog]

The problem is most Facebook pages dont tell the truth they show what the originator wants the public to know.

Someone (or many likely) needs to be held to account for this but like her in the UK I suspect we will just get 'lessons learned' and everything carries on.

[mikey4444]

YMB....I have always been suspicious of "home-Schooling"

I come across families where the kids are not sent to a proper school, and its always because of weirdo religious reasons.

We must not make he mistake of conflating this strange story from America, with what happens here. But when a family refuse to send their kids to school, the local authorities should make doubly sure that the kids are getting a proper education.

My fear is that these kids then disappear "off-grid" and become forgotten about.

[emmie]

shocking story, i did see this earlier this morning, very grim.

[youngmafbog]

I couldn't agree more.

[ToraToraTora]

mikey: "Amazing and horrible story from America ( where else )" - where else? how about fluffy bunny Liberal Holland? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case - still never miss a chance to bash our US friends eh?

[anthro-nerd]

What I don't understand is the neighbours have said they saw the children looked malnourished and were eating out of the bin - but it was reported because one of the children got away and ran to the police?!

What neighbours wouldn't report malnourished children eating out of a bin?!

[kvalidir]

//I have always been suspicious of "home-Schooling"

I come across families where the kids are not sent to a proper school, and its always because of weirdo religious reasons.//

Thanks Mikey. As someone who was home schooled, along with all my many siblings, and who as a consequence knows many more home schooled kids, I can honestly say that I have never met one person who is home schooled for that reason.
The reason my own parents, and many others don't send their kids to 'proper schools' (whatever the hell those are), is because they consider those schools to be deficient in some way; either academically, morally, socially or they simply don't like the values taught within the mainstream education system. Being a criminal weirdo is not what the vast majority of home schooling parents are, in fact it takes far more effort, far more patience and far more money to home school a child, and nonsensical comments as above really show a complete lack of understanding of what home education is.

[mikey4444]

TTT....you need a Geography lesson......the Fritzl case happened in Austria, not Holland, fluffy or not.

[mikey4444]

KV...my experience of home schooling is somewhat different to yours, and, by the way, I didn't use the term criminal...you did.

I came across a family earlier this month, with 5 kids, all under 12, who were home-schooled, and they lived in a Yurt in a muddy field, with no mains electricity or water.

While teaching a very young child to read and write maybe doable just about anywhere, ( I could read and write when I first attended school in September 1958, for instance ) what are this family going to do when it comes to GCSEs, etc ?

I am sure that you were not shackled to your bed, and lived in dark and foul-smelling surroundings

My point is that for home-schooled kids, they tend to disappear off the radar, and local authorities are unable/unwilling to make sure that their education is up to standard.

[ToraToraTora]

...but not the US....

[mikey4444]

TTT...not sure what point you are trying to make ?

This happened in America, where similar cases have been found before.

[kvalidir]

Weirdly I also know people who live in yurts in muddy fields and it impacts their ability to teach their children not at all. Stop being such an ill-informed judgemental twit, it comes across as very patronising and very ignorant that you think people who live off grid are incapable of teaching their children. Thankfully the local LEAs know differently, and yes I was the one who used the term 'criminally'- or do you perhaps not think that the story you cited in your OP was a criminal act, and nothing whatsoever to do with education otherwise.I can't be bothered to argue, so take the field with your next reply, but clearly these people would have been a massive problem wherever their children went to school.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// This happened in America, where similar cases have been found before. ///

Yes and just check out the surnames of those similar cases listed in the report.

The disadvantages of a multi-racial country.

[mikey4444]

From the BBC link ::::

"In California, private schools operate outside the jurisdiction of the education department and most regulations. They are directly accountable to students and their parents or guardians, and the state has no authority to monitor or evaluate them.

Teachers at private schools in California also do not need to hold a valid state teaching qualification"

Is it any wonder then, that this family slipped under the radar ?