The Last British Is Gang Captured In Syria

[Khandro]

The most vicious, murderous IS cell all came from London, and were nurtured and educated in Britain, what does that tell us? How could this have happened? How could it have been prevented?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42995027

[douglas9401]

Well you could start by rooting out and silencing those who preach and teach violence and death in our country, whatever their point of view.

[Zacs-Master]

That wouldn’t stop internet radicalisation.

[dannyk13]

The Internet providers could do more to prevent that.

[douglas9401]

I never suggested it woud ZM, just a starting point. I'm sure it'll start just as soon as the 'let's talk about this' fantasists get put to one side.

[Zacs-Master]

I was merely pointing out that it wouldn’t solve the problem.

[anotheoldgit]

One of them is reported to have been one of those so called 'child' refugees from Syria.

When will we hear that well worn phrase, "Lessons will be learned"?

Strangely it never is used in cases such as this.

[dannyk13]

//One of them is reported to have been one of those so called 'child' refugees from Syria//
Link please AOG.

[-Talbot-]

I was merely pointing out that it wouldn’t solve the problem


And Douglas was merely pointing out that we could start by rooting out and silencing those who preach and teach violence and death in our country.

Which is A part of the problem.

[Khandro]

They also have the internet in other countries, and yes recruits came from there too, but it seems notable that the very worst of the worst - including the arch-executioner, 'jihadi john' - all came from Britain, and London at that.

[naomi24]

While we tolerate a religion that teaches much that is alien to our culture we have no hope of preventing it.

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13

//One of them is reported to have been one of those so called 'child' refugees from Syria//
Link please AOG. ///

I heard it on the radio, not the BBC I hasten to add, but a simple Google search will bring up numerous newspaper reporting the same, this is just one.

http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/08/final-british-jihadis-isis-beatles-captured-syria-7298021/

/// Former child refugee Elsheikh was a mechanic from White City in west London, and Alexanda Kotey was from Paddington. ///

Sorry to disappoint you.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24
/// While we tolerate a religion that teaches much that is alien to our culture we have no hope of preventing it. ///

What do you suggest we do Naomi? Not that I am disagreeing with you, you understand.

[dannyk13]

I am not disappointed AOG, Ta for the link.

[youngmafbog]

The two main things we need to do are written above. As we can do something about Douglas' point it is definitely a way to start (Might get some HRA/ECHR issues so need to deal with that too). Secondly we need to get tougher with internet providers. They should not be able to escape culpability by hiding behind "We only facilitate, we dont monitor" or whatever the latest excuse is. It can be done and we should do it.
Next we need to knock this liberal attitude of letting all and sundry into the country. We need to vet people and only let in those we need and can trust and support OUR values.
Lastly, whilst we cannot do anything about home grown terrorists apart from lock them up we should adopt a policy of doing just that, not giving them houses and benefits.

[anotheoldgit]

These two will undoubtedly be returned to these shores, so the question is what should we do with them.

Since we no longer have the death penalty, which they deserve, then perhaps they should be incarcerated in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.

[naomi24]

aog at 10:09, I suggest we stop being so tolerant for a start. It won't stop it, but at least we won't be attempting to combat it with one hand tied behind our back as we are now.

[youngmafbog]

Unfortunately AOG they will probably be given a house and benefits and the opportunity to continue with their activities.

Let us hope the US take them to the USA and prosecute them in one of the following state:

Electrocution in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.
Gas inhalation in Arizona and California.
Firing squad in Utah.
Hanging in Washington.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

Stopping being so tolerant could and should cover a number of measures, can you be a little more specific?

[Khandro]

Apparently the Americans didn't want the news of their capture released, and I think they have a point. They would prefer to find out, by whatever means necessary (remember these guys are murderers, beheaders, torturers and crucifiers and rapists) to find out some answers to how they changed from being London schoolboys into what they became, and who aided them on their way.