Beating Fraud At The Ballot Box

[sp1814]

I have no problem being asked for ID before voting, but I can understand that not everyone actually has a bank card or even a current passport.

What are your thoughts?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/local-elections-latest-voters-denied-right-id-check-identification-polling-stations-london-a8334306.html

[dannyk13]

^vote for^

[THECORBYLOON]

Was there special legislation introduced that requires ID to be produced in the trial areas?

[bhg481]

and what about people who will be away from home on holiday / for work etc?

[Kromovaracun]

If you're going to do something about corruption, then I think campaign finance is a far more urgent priority than voter ID.

I find ID cards insidious and creepy.

[Jackdaw33]

The housebound could always vote. Don't forget the proxy vote where someone votes on your behalf. Of course you have to trust that he will vote according to your wishes.

[ToraToraTora]

TCL: "TTT, you approve of the many being affected by the actions of the very few in this instance? " - not sure which is which but how did we cope before 2001 when St Tony enabled corrupt block voting? Perhaps there should be a system for registered disabled etc to vote by post, bit like the forces but there is no reason to have it available for the masses.

[dannyk13]

TTT, glad to see that you are not prejudiced against the disabled.

[dannyk13]

//I find ID cards insidious and creepy.//
Why Kromo?

[Mamyalynne]

There isn't a single Register of Disabled people, so we'd need to set that up first.

[ToraToraTora]

"and what about people who will be away from home on holiday / for work etc? " - well clearly voting is not their priority.
Danny: "TTT, glad to see that you are not prejudiced against the disabled. " - of course I am not, but postal voting is bent as a butchers hook, I'm happy for special arrangments for the disabled but not so Labour can secure their corralled block vote.

[ToraToraTora]

mamy: "There isn't a single Register of Disabled people, so we'd need to set that up first. " - have a day off!

[Mamyalynne]

Did I misunderstand your reply?

[ToraToraTora]

have you ever heard the phrase "registered disabled"?

[Peter Pedant]

crip
there were 26 ballot frauds last election
and so that serves as a cast iron excuse to make 60m people carry identity cards

well done ABers

[Mamyalynne]

I have heard the phrase yes - to my knowledge there is no single register.

If there is I'd be happy to see a link to it , thank you.

[dannyk13]

PP, 26 ballot frauds or 26 constituencies where fraud took place?

[dannyk13]

Lynne, there isn't one apart from one kept by local councils which is a voluntary register.

[Mamyalynne]

Thanks Danny, I am on a register but it is for a specific disability - didn't think there was a general one.

The other point raised re working away is valid too, having to go to the overseas branch of your employment for a week (for example) does not mean voting is not your priority.

[sp1814]

I’m surprised that we cannot vote online. That would surely be more secure than postal votes?

[Kromovaracun]

//Why Kromo?//

I can't really justify it, I just find the idea a bit overbearing and invasive. It's like a license to walk the street. It's a one way ticket too - once they're properly introduced there's essentially no going back, and at a time when the state harvests and monitors truly vast and unprecedented amounts of information about its citizens it makes me uncomfortable.