We Read Many Valid Points Against The Widespread Carrying Of Guns In America, But If This Citizen Had Not Been Carrying A Gun, Things Could Have Been Much Worse.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5769727/One-dead-injured-mass-shooting-Oklahoma-City-restaurant.html

[Mamyalynne]

Well done to that bystander.

'If' is such a huge word in many contexts.

[scooping]

That may be true. But what about all the other killings? You're being far too simplistic, singling out one incident. Your point seems to be more guns, fewer shootings...

[JJ109]

If the guy who shot the people in the restaurant in the first place did not have a gun, then he would still be alive and the people who were shot would not have been in danger. Guns kill - but the problem the USA has, is, that due to past error in policy, it would now be impossible to take guns away from everybody.

[Spicerack]

///If the guy who shot the people in the restaurant in the first place did not have a gun, then he would still be alive///

Who cares?

[kvalidir]

Yay go the bystander, however guns are still not a great idea for the general public.

[Zacs-Master]

What JJ109 said...........
i.e. if the guy carrying out the attack hadn't been allowed to carry one, the incident would never have happened.
Another valid point against the widespread carrying of guns.

More great logic there AOG.

[Spicerack]

///What JJ109 said...........
i.e. if the guy carrying out the attack hadn't been allowed to carry one, the incident would never have happened.///

You need to think that statement through, Zacs.

[Zacs-Master]

Nope. I don't.

[anotheoldgit]

/// if the guy carrying out the attack hadn't been allowed to carry one, the incident would never have happened. ///

If he hadn't been allowed to carry one?????????

People are not allowed to carry one in this country, but there are many who do.

[Spicerack]

Very hasty reply.
Again, you really should think about your idiotic replies before posting them.

[anotheoldgit]

Spicerack

/// You need to think that statement through, Zacs. ///

Wow!!!! don't ask the impossible.

[Spicerack]

To ZM, obviously.

[andy-hughes]

Anyone can find a situation to justify an argument in favour of something - in this case the NRA will be rubbing their hands with glee at the imagined support for their argument.

Personally, I don't believe it supports their argument for one second, but that won't stop them using it over and over again.

[youngmafbog]

ZM fell for the trap.

If a law is made good guys follow it, bad guys dont.

Still, this is not a case for everyone carrying guns except for maybe in the US where there are an estimated 400 million guns so it would be impossible to collect them all up and regulate them now.

[jim360]

2018 US gun death count: 5,643.

[youngmafbog]

"Personally, I don't believe it supports their argument for one second, but that won't stop them using it over and over again."

That simply is not true. It really isnt a full argument but it is one for far more than one second.

[youngmafbog]

Jim, you need to break that down it means nothing like that.

[jim360]

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

[Zacs-Master]

I fell for no trap.

Just for the remedial class kids...........
AOG's logic is that, if guns weren't carried by the general public then this incident wouldn't have been prevented. This has a glaring error in that.....if guns weren't allowed to be carried by the general public.......the incident would not have happened.

Jeez, it's hard work on here sometimes.

[ichkeria]

You aren’t kidding
Jeez indeed