Miss America - Good Looks Out!

[vetuste_ennemi]

https://citizen.co.za/news/news-world/1945715/miss-america-pageant-bans-swimsuits-and-judging-contestants-on-appearance/

Good news for fat feminists everywhere: you can enter the contest and, rather than be judged on white patriarchal standards of beauty, be judged instead on "talent and brain".

Seems to me this is sending mixed messages to all the "thick" women out there.

[naomi24]

Ohhh .... except "Some have got it [beauty], some haven't. I'm happy with that." I'm happy with that.

[jim360]

Are we good, Naomi? I was taking your quote and essentially trying to say that if everyone had the attitude you did, then beauty pageants wouldn't be a problem.

[naomi24]

Jim, I'm not sure what 'Are we good?' means in this instance - but shame they don't then. None of us can have everything we would like to have.

[jim360]

"Are we good?" = "Do you now understand the point I was making?"

[kvalidir]

Are you American Spath?

[naomi24]

Jim, oh right. Yes, I understand the point you're making.

[sp1814]

naomi24

No, brains are not ‘God given’. Some people are smarter than others, but with hard work and study most people can increase their knowledge on a subject.

Between the ages of 18 and 21 students at university extend their knowledge of their particular subject. They have actively applied themselves to learning.

A pretty 18 year old who is still pretty at 21 owes everything to her genes.

[ummmm]

Some of the 'beautiful' people I know are pretty boring. They rely on their looks.

[Sqad]

Let's take a comparison shall we?

How many professional footballers get picked on their intellectual acumen as well as their football skills?
How many football fans would prefer their favorite footballers with A-levels.
Come on folks, beauty contests are just that..BEAUTY CONTESTS...the clue being in the title.

[sp1814]

Sqad

Professional footballers have spent years honing their skills. They have practiced their craft, they have studied other great footballers.

Beauty queens are judged on who has the nicest tits and ***.

No comparison.

[sp1814]

Good grief.

“Tits and behinds” then!

[naomi24]

sp, //No, brains are not ‘God given’.//

I disagree. If it isn’t there to begin with no amount of study – or money - will put it there. If we have any sense at all we make the most of what we have – but even if we do that, it doesn’t follow that every duck becomes a swan nor every determined student an Einstein. It simply doesn't happen.

[Sqad]

sp1814

True.........but are you saying that the professional beauty contestant doesn't have to make sacrifices? Honing their bodies, taking advice from past winners, we don't know what goes on between contests, as it may not be as casual as you may think.

BUT.....I say again.....it is a BEAUTY CONTEST.

[sp1814]

Sqad

Aside from now eating cake for every meal, beauty contestants don’t have to do much to be beautiful.

Taking advice from previous winners???

Yes, I can see how that would work:

“Excuse me, can you tell me how you won last year?”

“Oh yeah, it was pretty easy - I just made sure that the genes my parents gave me were better than anyone else’s. Now if you would excuse me Miss Widdecombe, I’ve got other interviews to do”.

[naomi24]

sp, //beauty contestants don’t have to do much to be beautiful.//

I think some do. In fact, I think some work very hard indeed at being beautiful.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Just about everyone who applies themselves will improve and expand their knowledge of a subject. Not everyone will be an Einstein, but just about everyone can improve their minds.

Judging women on their beauty is archaic.

There’s literally no difference between Miss World and Crufts, apart from the amount of back hair involved.

[sp1814]

//I think some work very hard indeed at being beautiful.//

Diet and exercise will sort out the body. However, if you are a woman who looks like Bernard Ingham, no amount of work, hard or otherwise, is going to make you beautiful.

It more to do with genes.