Not Sure What Is Happenning With This Site But I'd Like To Discuss This News Story...

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5855955/Three-people-killed-struck-train-south-London.html
My last attempt was taken down, I have no idea why.

[youngmafbog]

Whilst death may have ended up being a very harsh penalty for them they really didnt care about anyone else did they?

Did they think that all the rail users have to pay to have it removed, did they think that rail workers doing the cleaning would have to wait until the leccy was off or take a chance whist trains were around? (and yes some have to I have seen it), did they think about how commuters would have been impacted even if they were just seen near the tracks?

No they didnt or didnt care. There are warning signs everywhere and anyone that doesnt realise, from a very early age, that the big lump of steel hurtling towards you is deadly perhaps is never gogin to be long for this world?

As usual it will be the innocent ones left behind that will have to pick up the pieces, Police, ambulance and relatives.

Seems many on here are only too quick to bash a poster for words but cant bring themselves to condemn a criminal act.

[Kromovaracun]

I don't think anyone is suggesting these three were heroes. Just that perhaps it isn't a cause for celebration that they are dead.

[ToraToraTora]

SP: that’s all in your head
Kromo: I’ll take you word for it, it was widely celebrated ion AB.
I’m as sad for these youngsters as anyone, I am sad for their upbringing, I’m sad that it’s anyone’s fault but their own, I’m sad at what our society has become, these are its latest victims.
If anyone should be ashamed it should be the last generation of right on liberals that have presided over a breakdown of law and order.

[mushroom25]

// 3 strikes and you are taken off. //

that's a myth Baza. practically everything to do with the movement of trains is driven by HAZID and risk assessment. staff welfare is no different. it may be that one incident is enough to see off a driver's career. or, a driver who is unlucky enough to have had 3 incidents or more is still driving.

[youngmafbog]

I dispute that a train driver will have killed 3 people. It is impossible to stop the train in time so it is the loco that killed them the driver can do nothing, it's not a car or lorry that can swerve.

[Kromovaracun]

//I’m as sad for these youngsters as anyone//

Sure you are.

//some vandals got their comeuppance what's not to like?//

[New Judge]

"Wait a minute...is someone really happy that graffiti artists are dead?"

I don't celebrate their deaths but, assuming they are "taggers", they are not "artists" - graffiti or otherwise. They are vandals, plain and simple. The results of their work are plain to see on almost any railway journey and I have seen extreme examples where trains have been left all but unusable through being almost covered with "art". So let's not label them with something they are not. The cost of rectification runs into tens of thousands of pounds.

This really is an example of Darwin's theory at work. Anybody stupid enough to take to a live and busy railway track (and a third rail electrified one at that) to commit vandalism is two sandwiches short of a picnic.

[Kromovaracun]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Just leaving this here.

[Bazile]

//I suspect that the consensus of opinion here will be that everyone is to blame for this tragedy apart from the three young vandals who entered a place of great danger to pursue their illegal activities and paid the ultimate price as a result.//

I don't think anyone is saying that they were not the author of their deaths - if that is what happened - i.e . they went unto the track to do graffiti

The question is - did they deserve to die , because of that ?

[jackthehat]

*attention*......... *attention*

"Blustering self-justification coupled with whining finger-pointing approaching this post at a great rate of knots"

You have been warned.......

[youngmafbog]

I dont know about standard trains but I knew someone who worked for the underground. After the 3rd he was moved off, more for his own sanity rather than any wrong doing., especially since one of them splatted up the windscreen. He was very badly affected.

[ToraToraTora]

they can trace the train that did it but I'll be surprised if the driver even knew he hit anyone, it would not have registered.

[baza]

Not a myth , yes some react differently, I know a few drivers who think they can cope with knowing that fact , not all can, with some it only takes one, others manage 2 but the bloke down the road has had three and now works in the sidings as he is not allowed on the main line.

[sp1814]

There’s a great YouTube clip of some idiots mucking about on a train line - it was out about two years ago...one of them gets a kick in the face by a train driver.

There’s an appropriateness to that.

There’s no appropriateness between tagging/graffitti and being run over by a train.

What would be appropriate would be if the vandals (if that’s what they were), were using paint spray that exploded whilst they were using them, covering them with blue paint, which they couldn’t remove for a number of weeks.

Death is not an appropriate resolution to vandalism.

[youngmafbog]

But hopefully it may serve as a warning to the many others that do it and in the process save some lives as well as reduce the mess.

[fender62]

youngmafbog, news today is old news tomorrow.. sadly
youngsters probably do not watch the news, and would hear about the deaths from friends or family, if they hear anything at all, some would shrug and say i can run faster or im smarter etc superman syndrome.

[youngmafbog]

Unfortunately I suspect you are right fender.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

Some sick comments on here, I don't think anyone should be chuffed to bits.

[Jackdaw33]

Nowhere have I read that people welcome the death of these unfortunate men. What I have read is that if people put themselves into mortal danger in order to carry out illegal activities then it can be of no surprise if those dangers come to fruition.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

I fully agree, Jackdaw. The fact that they went off the rails is no cause for celebration.