Had This Joke Been About Jews, Would It Have Been Antisemitic?

[sp1814]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/alan-sugar-tweet-senegal-team-racist-bbc-apprentice-a8407671.html

[webbo3]

And how many looky looky men in Spain and on the med are white?

[sp1814]

Baldric

How do you know of the racial or social background of those who have criticised Lord Sugar?

Also, is it not possible for someone to critique someone without being their target?

Let say that someone went on Twitter with a joke that Essex girls are all slappers. Would it not be possible for someone who isn’t an Essex girl to respond with, “Oi...that’s an ignorant statement, they’re not”?

Is that not possible?

[sp1814]

webbo3

How many of the men selling gear on the beaches of Spain are in that picture posted by Lord Sugar?

Is it zero, or more than zero?

[Baldric]

Where on Earth did I specify the racial or social background of those who have criticised Lord Sugar, Please Copy and Paste.

[sp1814]

Baldric

You wrote:

//Those doing the complaining were not the butt of unpleasant casual racist humour on social media, they were the ones taking offence on behalf of someone else//

That is what lead me to ask, how you know that racial or social background of those who have criticised Lord Sugar.

[Baldric]

No I don't, but I haven't seen any of the team complaining, those that have done so were not were not the butt of unpleasant casual racist humour on social media, their ethnic background was not mentioned or alluded to.
Stop reading in things that simply not therejust to further your agenda.

[webbo3]

SP1814

\\webbo3

How many of the men selling gear on the beaches of Spain are in that picture posted by Lord Sugar?

Is it zero, or more than zero?//


Answer the question, how many looky looky men have you seen that are white, all the one that have spoilt my evening in a restaurant or a day on the beach have been young black African men.

[sp1814]

Baldric

//their ethnic background was not mentioned or alluded to.//

Ha ha...bless.

Love it.

webbo3 - in answer to your question, I think the number is about a dozen. Do you consider Spanish blokes ‘white’? I ask, because when I was in Tenerife a few years ago, there were loads at the market square who were selling knock off sunglasses and they looked Spanish...although I don’t know...at the time I didn’t ask about the specifics of their background.

The thing that I find interesting is that my question has been swerved so much.

If the joke that Lord Sugar posted had been about Jews, would it have been seen as Antisemitic?

[Baldric]

/// their ethnic background was not mentioned or alluded to
Ha ha...bless ///

I'll try again, as you seem to be hard of understanding, where did I mention/allude to the ethnic background of those who were doing the complaining

[-Talbot-]

Was it racist that the last time I saw these sellers of bargains they referred to me a Del-boy?


Well yes, it was...I'm still seething.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[237SJ]

More insulting than racist I would say. Shame he hasn't got anything more important to do with his time

[Spicerack]

I'm just an elderly, white, wriggly mouth-flapper. So my opinion will be irrelevant. (to you)

[-SharonA-]

Basically, Lord Sugar is in the public eye and he should be careful what she t he posts. In private it different as per my remarks about the Croats.
For sqad @ 16:25 in my area the eastern Europeans are constantly rummaging through our bins mostly for stuff they can sell on. Things have changed since you were last in the U.K.

[237SJ]

^ How do you know they are Eastern Europeans?

[-Talbot-]

Could have been MI5

[-SharonA-]

True, but they couldn't speak a word of English unless they were pretending.

[sandyRoe]

Any criticism of Jews or Zionists will, of course, be seen as grossly offensive and racist.

[Old_Geezer]

Borderline, but IMO not something to make a fuss over.
Unsure what jews have to do with it; they were on the beach offering loans weren't they ?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// “Last time I saw these Jews, they were robbing me blind”,///

No, that would be offensive, because he would then have been accusing Jews of committing an illegal act.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Years ago, no one had the technology to mock up such a picture, ///

For years we have had cartoonists, and no one was free from being included in their cartoons if the need arose, just for the fun of it if the need arose.
But it seems that in today's narrow minded world and because of the threat of being classed as racist, there are special protected species who are free from being the 'butt of the joke'.