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I just don't understand life today at all......odd times in which we live.
If they don't want a religious marriage, then why not get married in a Registry Office, that's not religious is it?
if one doesn't want to get married......then don't......or are there disadvantages to not being officially married.
I am glad that my lifespan is coming to an end.
If they don't want a religious marriage, then why not get married in a Registry Office, that's not religious is it?
if one doesn't want to get married......then don't......or are there disadvantages to not being officially married.
I am glad that my lifespan is coming to an end.
Sqad
The reason they do not want a traditional marriage is because they do not accept the societal baggage that comes with traditional marriage (the whole patriarchical thing).
Abolishing civil partnerships for same-sex couples to end the discrimination could mean dissolving legal ties that unite 63,000 gay couples – a course of action that would trigger political furore and legal uncertainty.
The problem we have right now is that with hindsight we can see that CPs were a convenient halfway house. The of course, the Equal Marriage Bill went through which messed everything up.
The reason they do not want a traditional marriage is because they do not accept the societal baggage that comes with traditional marriage (the whole patriarchical thing).
Abolishing civil partnerships for same-sex couples to end the discrimination could mean dissolving legal ties that unite 63,000 gay couples – a course of action that would trigger political furore and legal uncertainty.
The problem we have right now is that with hindsight we can see that CPs were a convenient halfway house. The of course, the Equal Marriage Bill went through which messed everything up.
LOL.....Bazile......I have a had a good run, done all the things that i have wanted to, achieved what i wanted and have difficulty in understanding the world of gays, transgender, sex and the danger and degradation in the world today. i have lived in the vicinity of the Kray Twins, practiced medicine when it was an art and not a list of conditions on a website.........so yes Bazile.......no regrets.
'Many want legal and financial security but cannot have this because in the eyes of the law they are not married'.
This does not alter the status and rights of those unmarried at all. They must still either marry or engage in a civil partnership to enjoy all the rights and privileges that go with it. Since civil partnerships and marriage are essentially identical in the rights and privileges they each provide and since both (in terms of both religious and non-religious versions) are now seemingly open to all couplings then one of the two is redundant.
I see the couple's point in that same-sex couples have a choice of either partnership whereas opposite sex couples don't. That should have been thought through when same-sex marriage was enabled. But you cannot expect the armies of civil servants and ministers dealing with these matters to be able to envisage such a consequential inequality arising from their plans. It's far too complicated for them.
This does not alter the status and rights of those unmarried at all. They must still either marry or engage in a civil partnership to enjoy all the rights and privileges that go with it. Since civil partnerships and marriage are essentially identical in the rights and privileges they each provide and since both (in terms of both religious and non-religious versions) are now seemingly open to all couplings then one of the two is redundant.
I see the couple's point in that same-sex couples have a choice of either partnership whereas opposite sex couples don't. That should have been thought through when same-sex marriage was enabled. But you cannot expect the armies of civil servants and ministers dealing with these matters to be able to envisage such a consequential inequality arising from their plans. It's far too complicated for them.
Sqad
Holy bloody hell...you want to die????
You actually wrote that things like this make you want to be dead?!!!
That bothers me quite a lot.
There are things that make me roll my eyes about; there are things that infuriate me; there are things that make wonder what the world is coming to...but I have never once ever welcomed the warm embrace of the grave.
That’s one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read on AB.
Please confirm you’re joking.
Holy bloody hell...you want to die????
You actually wrote that things like this make you want to be dead?!!!
That bothers me quite a lot.
There are things that make me roll my eyes about; there are things that infuriate me; there are things that make wonder what the world is coming to...but I have never once ever welcomed the warm embrace of the grave.
That’s one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read on AB.
Please confirm you’re joking.
"Abolishing civil partnerships for same-sex couples to end the discrimination could mean dissolving legal ties that unite 63,000 gay couples.."
Not at all. Civil partnerships undertaken under the previous legislation would still be recognised. Such partnerships would not become null and void. All that would happen is that no more CPs would be sanctioned.
Of course those together under a CP will immediately call "foul" because, no doubt, they will believe that people will consider their union "second class" or some such nonsense. But life's tough sometimes and we all have to pay for politicians' stupidity at some point in our lives.
Not at all. Civil partnerships undertaken under the previous legislation would still be recognised. Such partnerships would not become null and void. All that would happen is that no more CPs would be sanctioned.
Of course those together under a CP will immediately call "foul" because, no doubt, they will believe that people will consider their union "second class" or some such nonsense. But life's tough sometimes and we all have to pay for politicians' stupidity at some point in our lives.
sp1814
Steady! ;-)
I didn't say that i WANTED to die ( I hope)I said that i was glad that my lifespan was coming to an end......as in, I am not afraid of dying ( I suppose you think that is not what i originally said.)
We ALL have to die sp at some time and i feel that i have no part to play and i am like a fish out of water in the modern era (generation).
No big deal.
Steady! ;-)
I didn't say that i WANTED to die ( I hope)I said that i was glad that my lifespan was coming to an end......as in, I am not afraid of dying ( I suppose you think that is not what i originally said.)
We ALL have to die sp at some time and i feel that i have no part to play and i am like a fish out of water in the modern era (generation).
No big deal.
NJ
I completely see the point about some people seeing CPs are ‘second class’ marriages.
That’s exactly how I see them. To me, they’re pretend marriages as they don’t have exactly the same rights as traditional unions.
The whole pension thing is the stand out difference...and also because CPs are not, and never have been marriages.
They are...other.
They ape the traditional marriage ceremony, but no number of ring exchanges, flower girls, stag/hen parties or honeymoons can disguise the fact that they are not really marriages.
I completely see the point about some people seeing CPs are ‘second class’ marriages.
That’s exactly how I see them. To me, they’re pretend marriages as they don’t have exactly the same rights as traditional unions.
The whole pension thing is the stand out difference...and also because CPs are not, and never have been marriages.
They are...other.
They ape the traditional marriage ceremony, but no number of ring exchanges, flower girls, stag/hen parties or honeymoons can disguise the fact that they are not really marriages.
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