Jailed For Joining A Banned Far-Right Group.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44873178

I have change the description of the group, since Neo-Nazi is just another scary label the media likes to use.

But 8 years and 6 years is a little harsh, for not committing any serious crime.

[bednobs]

it really does on the face of it seem like a long sentence. However, i am glad the Govt are cracking down on terrorist groups

[bednobs]

ps i wouldn't call being part of a terrorist group "not a serious crime"

[naomi24]

They don't sound squeaky clean to me, aog. Horrible people. Best place for them.

[jackthehat]

Good to see that the Judiciary is clamping down on these hate groups.

[ichkeria]

Well said Naomi.
I don’t imagine these people were jailed simply for ‘joining’. National Action is a thankfully small group engaged in planning and carrying out acts of terrorism that could affect the lives of anyone. So probably not unreasonable to assume that this pair were potential terrorists. Not just people who signed up to some group on a whim.

[Lie-in King]

Good news.

[sp1814]

AOG

You may be loathe to call them neo-Nazis, but don’t fool yourself. This isn’t necessarily a media construct.

From Wikipedia:

//In an investigation by the Daily Mirror, Benjamin Raymond, age 25 in June 2014, was found to be the leader of National Action. He is a former double-glazing salesman who graduated with a degree in Politics from the University of Essex in 2013.[9] By 2014, he had written on his blog: "There are non-whites and Jews in my country who all need to be exterminated. As a teenager, Mein Kampf changed my life. I am not ashamed to say I love Hitler.

[jackthehat]

///It became the first far-Right group to be banned under terrorism laws in December 2016.
The British neo-Nazi organisation was proscribed under powers outlawing the glorification of terrorism – meaning it is a crime, punishable by a maximum of ten years in prison, to be a member or supporter of the group.///

It could have been worse for them........

[sp1814]

Also AOG, whilst they might not have committed an act of terrorism yet, I think it’s safer for all of us that they be put away.

They don’t sound like they should be out on the streets.

[sp1814]

JTH

Earlier that year, the group had celebrated the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox by a white supremacist, which the government said amounted to the unlawful glorification of terrorism.

Astounding.

[Mamyalynne]

Good result.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

/// They don't sound squeaky clean to me, aog. Horrible people. Best place for them. ///

I admit those others that are mentioned in the report are horrible persons and belong in jail, but what actual crime have these two committed except leading and the other joining a group which attracted them because of some of their views?

Disillusioned maybe, but dangerous terrorist criminals?

Incidentally Lythgoe, the National Action leader, was found not guilty of encouragement to murder for allegedly giving Renshaw permission to kill Ms Cooper on behalf of the group.

[jackthehat]

It's shocking that some people would approve of such a thing, sp, as just some minor abberation because, after all, National Action are simply a group of 'concerned citizens' and all round good eggs....

[Rockrose]

I for one am pleased to see these 'savages' are to be kept behind bars for sometime to come.

[naomi24]

Aog, //the group had celebrated the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox by a white supremacist, which the government said amounted to the unlawful glorification of terrorism.

Jack Renshaw, 23, of Skelmersdale, Lancashire, pleaded guilty to preparing an act of terrorism by buying a machete for the purpose of murdering West Lancashire MP Rosie Cooper.

Renshaw also admitted threatening to kill Det Con Victoria Henderson, who was investigating him for other matters.

It can also now be reported that Renshaw was convicted earlier this year of two counts of stirring up racial hatred in speeches he made in 2016.//

What sort of people do those things? None I would want to know.

[Gromit]

Belonging to a terrorist group is a serious crime?
Or that buying a machete with a view to murdering someone?
Or threatening a police officer?

- None of that is serious ?

[youngmafbog]

Evil savages, jail is best place for them. The case went on for 5 weeks it was not simply a matter of belonging to a banned group.

Now lets see the authorities clamp down on all of these terrorists with the same vigour.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

Yes but that was Jack Renshaw who deserves a very harsh sentence.

Other than belonging to this banned group, I can't see what serious crimes these other two have committed.

[anotheoldgit]

youngmafbog

/// Now lets see the authorities clamp down on all of these terrorists with the same vigour. ///

Even though they know them, I can't see the same vigour being used.