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Who On Earth Elected May?

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Minkyme | 17:06 Thu 19th Jul 2018 | News
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She’s like having found an angry pregnant opossum under your kitchen table who doesn’t want to leave but one things for sure, you’re going to make if leave.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/07/theresa-may-secret-advice-brexit-eu

She’s tired, old, haggard and just not up for the job or any pm job.

I wanted a vibrant young fighter in our corner not this miserable bag lady past her sellby date.

Brexit is going to be her crusifiction, mark my words.

Good riddance to old rubbish is what I say.

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Cassa,
As I said earlier, the Brexiters Johnson, Gove, Leadsome and Fox all had the chance to lead, and they all walked away and handed the job to May unopposed.
They knew it was going to be hard and messy, so chose to let May take the fall, and they will reset their ambitions when it is all over.
Gromit, I agree.
Not sure Johnson had much choice after Gove stabbed him in the back. The others I agree.
Fox and Gove both stood and lost. Only Leadsom walked away and she polled a very poor second.
Gromit, as I said earlier it wouldn't have made a difference about who walks away it is because it was all done behind closed doors by remainer ministers and May sanctioned it.

The mess we are in is totally down to remained.
Cassa,
True the Remain supporting Conservative MPs wanted May to win the Leadership Contest.
But her Crowning without a contest was done with the connivance of the the Brexiters. They all stood down.
See my post above. Only Leadsom stood down, Fox and Gove didn't.
Did someone quote King Eric... my attention span is short and you lost me after that.
Liam Fox sounds quite reasonable these days: either he’s mellowed or the others have calcified into hyper hard Brexit
Although NJ is correct to say that the electorate do not choose party leaders we do indirectly elect the PM inasmuch as we know that at election time the leader of the winning party will become PM.
Some very strange 'logic' going on on this thread.

The current political situation has only arisen because the 'leave' vote won. Fact.

How that can be spun to be the remainer's fault is completely illogical.
JD 'we do indirectly elect the PM inasmuch as we know that at election time the leader of the winning party will become PM.'

But Cameron was leader at election time, not May.
At the last election, May was leader.
//Not sure Johnson had much choice after Gove stabbed him in the back.//

Why do people keep saying that? He ran away from the job like all of them except May. None of them thought leave was actually going to win, including Boris.

I'll never forget his face as he was leaving his house on the morning after his 'victory'. If ever an expression said 'Oh S.. what do I do now?', it was that one.
Cameroon called for the ref and the vote went against his expectations so he did a runner, as the tory party worded the choice leave or stay, they should honour the result. Their MPs need to get behind brexit or resign from the party. by infighting they are giving the remoaners an open goal.
"Why do people keep saying that? "

Because it is the case. After Gove went for Boris there was no way he could win, to have continued would have wrecked any chance he would have in the future. Why would someone enter a contest they knew they couldnt win and jeopardize future attempts? Pretty sure you wouldn't.
Whatever arguments there may be, I do like the description, 'angry, pregnant opossum'.
Zacs-Master //JD

But Cameron was leader at election time, not May.//

The rest of us are talking about the last election. Do keep up.
“How that can be spun to be the remainer's fault is completely illogical.”

Not Really, Zacs.

The question was put to the country whether they wanted to leave or remain. The leavers prevailed. All the hoo-hah since June 2016 has been, essentially, about retaining as many features of our EU membership as possible whilst (on paper anyway) “leaving”. There was never any proper consideration given to, or plans put in place for leaving properly.

Ever since the vote, those politicians (many in government themselves) and others who wished to remain have been continually scraping away at the government to acquiesce to an agreement which amounts to “Brino” (Brexit In Name Only). They refuse to accept that leaving and behaving as a “normal” nation is the only sensible option which meets the definition of leaving. "Project Fear" (now up to phase 94 or thereabouts) continues to thrive and only this week the ridiculous notion that flights between the UK and the EU would be halted should we "crash out" without a deal.

It is often said that, with such a thin majority for leaving, the wishes of the 48% who voted to remain should be considered. I’ve absolutely no idea why this should be so. The question was binary, the remainers lost. I’ve never heard it asked whether, had the result been 52:48 in favour of remaining, whether (or indeed how) the wishes of the leavers would have been accommodated. I have a sneaky suspicion that on June 24th 2016 it would have been announced “Well that’s that nonsense over with. Now let’s get back to normal” (or something similar).

Since the referendum those wishing to remain have sought ways to hinder the “negotiations” by making less than sensible demands for the country to retain the essential features of EU membership (most of which were well aired before the vote). These demands have compromised the talks and the EU knows it very well. The country (and indeed its government) should have presented a united front that demonstrated that we were leaving, come what may and whilst we would love to continue trading and cooperating with our European neighbours (as normal countries across the globe do with theirs) we will no longer blindly accept or comply with their legislation, we will no longer be subject to their court of arbitration, we will no longer be paying them any money and we will not tolerate any sort of border on the island of Ireland which hinders the movement of goods or people into the UK. Only once that had been established could talks move on in a sensible fashion. Regretfully the reason it did not was because appeasement of the Remainers was deemed necessary to keep them “onside” in order to implement the results of a vote which they lost.
I agree with NJ, my view is if you want to live in Europe then go and live there but if you want to live here then shut up moaning about how unfair the ref result was.

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