Isn't This Racist?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6019117/South-Africa-plan-seize-land-white-farmers-catastrophic.html

[dannyk13]

No more racist than when the white farmers took the land from the native South Africans in the first place.

[237SJ]

They won`t be happy until they`ve turned the place into Zimbabwe. You can`t just purloin land and learn how to farm overnight. And if they seize the vineyards, that`ll be the end of their wine industry as well.

[Mamyalynne]

It's a totally inappropriate way to tackle this situation.

[dannyk13]

I don't think Ramaphosa cares about that, his only interest is his political career.

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13

Oh great perhaps we should claim some of our land back, if it isn't racist to do so.

[anotheoldgit]

Should we now refuse all aid to South Africa?

[dannyk13]

AOG, I am not saying that this isn't wrong. I am saying that it is not racist.If you can fit this into the definition of racism feel free to do so.

[sandyRoe]

No. If we cut aid we'd also be severing our influence.
Anyway, what people say in the run up to an election isnt always what they'll do if they're elected. Trumps wall is a good example of that.

[douglas9401]

Multi storey to mud huts and subsistence farming in a generation if this comes to pass.

Cyril will, of course, have already earmarked his summer and winter lodgings for when he flees with his ill-gotten gains to points abroad leaving the heroes of the struggle to do just that.

[Old_Geezer]

Yes. It's State theft too. But what can one do, it's a sovereign nation and has to be very bad before others intervene.

[Deskdiary]

I would have thought singling out an ethnic minority and treating them detrimentally is the very definition of racism.

And if taking their property, and therefore their livelihood, isn't bad enough, the fact it might be taken without any compensation is a disgrace

Am I the only one to find the following statement from Ramaphosa chilling? "It has become patently clear that our people want the constitution to be more explicit about expropriation of land without compensation..."

As expropriation is the seizing of land for the public good, I could kind of 'get it' if the farmers weren't producing, but as they no doubt are, and are therefore employing people and contributing to the SA economy, how the hell is this for the public good.

Danny is right that this is a purely political move (but he's wrong that it's not racist).

[andy-hughes]

No, it's not racist.

The government is not looking to redistribute land ownership because the owners are white, it's because the distribution is unfair and unequal.

[cassa333]

That seems wrong Andy. They are only taking land from white farmers. Your supposition would hold more weight if there was a relatively even mix of white and black farmers land taken.

In any case what is the betting a fair number of the ousted white farmers will end up dead by mob action?

[naomi24]

If the decision isn't racially biased, why only white farmers? Of course it's racist.

[andy-hughes]

cassa - // That seems wrong Andy. They are only taking land from white farmers. Your supposition would hold more weight if there was a relatively even mix of white and black farmers land taken. //


That would depend on their being an relatively even mix of white and black farmers to take land from. The entire point is that white farmers own almost all the farmland, which is why the land is being taken from white farmers, but that is because they own the land, not just simply because they are white.

//In any case what is the betting a fair number of the ousted white farmers will end up dead by mob action? //

That has nothing to do with the OP, that's a potential outcome.

[naomi24]

237SJ //They won`t be happy until they`ve turned the place into Zimbabwe.//

My thoughts exactly. Whoopee! A new world on the horizon. Fools!

[naomi24]

Cassa, //In any case what is the betting a fair number of the ousted white farmers will end up dead by mob action? //

Watch that space. Heaven help them.

[-Talbot-]

Don't forget we share our destiny with Africa

[Togo]

There was precious little farming in S Africa or Rhodesia/Zimbabwe before the white farmers arrived. There was of course plenty of fertile land. There will be precious little farming done when the white farmers have been disenfranchised by force. Perhaps they can persuade the millions gaining illegal entry to "white" Europe to stay, or return to do a bit of farming.