How Can Corbyn Deny He Laid The Wreath For The Purps Of The Munich Massacre?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45170622
There's a picture of him holding it!

[naomi24]

What are you talking about now?

[naomi24]

Right...

[Kromovaracun]

//tef Bseiso was the Palestine Liberation Organization's (PLO) liaison officer with foreign intelligence agencies and a member of Black September, a group from which the killers behind the Munich Massacre were recruited//

He was an informer, then? And wasn't a perpetrator? And was among the many dead killed in the 1985 incident that Corbyn was there to commemorate (which is all I can see in the supposed quotes of him 'admitting it').

Sorry, this story just stinks to me. It seems like an extremely obscure event that someone is determined to use for a sensationalist headline. He wasn't even in the same country as the Munich attackers' grave, and was at the grave of some people with very loose (and unproven) connections to them. Yes, it's a bit stupid but I can't get myself horrified over it.

Look, I get it. I don't like Corbyn either - for reasons that I have said multiple times on here: he's a poor leader, he's shown no backbone on anti-semitism, he keeps very undesirable company (indeed I've met some of them). I will not vote for Labour while he is leader. But we *cannot* just allow the press to be this sloppy. They are supposed to be better than this. It does nobody any favours and in the long run will only strengthen his position rather than undermine it. There's plenty of real things that Corbyn has done very wrong, and on their own easily warrant his replacement as Labour leader for someone more astute. Let's not let emotional make-believe into the mix, eh? It's not necessary.

[dannyk13]

Spath, //orbyn and his mother have been to numerous anti-semitism rallys//
And you know this how? link please.

[Kromovaracun]

It doesn't take much to show up at a rally, spath. There is a serious problem in Labour and he really hasn't shown much leadership in solving it.

[naomi24]

Krom, //He was an informer, then? And wasn't a perpetrator?//

As I said, his actions with regard to Munich are still a subject of debate.

//Let's not let emotional make-believe into the mix, eh? //

Emotion doesn’t enter into it. Why doesn’t Corbyn just say “No”?

[jim360]

Then again, Corbyn has freely, happily and openly associated with people who are capable of trotting out such gems as "Not all Jews ["adherents to the Torah"] are the enemies of humanity", or who peddle Zionist conspiracy theories, etc.

He's kept bad company, and shown bad judgement in keeping such bad company.

[Kromovaracun]

Spath,

I had thought so. I didn't believe that anti-semitism was a problem in Labour until someone showed me the evidence. But there are so many verifiable examples that it's just undeniable - and it's started under his leadership. That places a responsibility on him which he hasn't stepped up to. In fact the responsibility on him is arguably even greater considering he was such a vocal critic of anti-semitism back when he wasn't in a position of authority.

[Kromovaracun]

I haven't called him an anti-semite, spath. I doubt very much that Corbyn, personally, has any antipathy towards jews. I haven't seen any evidence that he 'hates' anyone, really. Perhaps not even people he should be more wary of. But he has shirked his responsibility as leader in dealing with this problem. For the first time in his career he's really in a position to put some of those principles he's been advocating for so long into practice - and he seems to be really struggling to do it. It's not really any use going to decades of rallies and sincerely opposing anti-semitism if you don't walk the walk when you are actually, finally, in a position where your opinion counts.

//So why are we wasting time discussing a man, who has actively marched with his family against antisemitism when we have a PM who won;t even say nout on these issues? //

Because it would be wrong not to. I agree with you about the Tories. I think they're a corrupt gang of spivs who are bending this country's institutions to the will of their ambitious donors. They put power above everything else. They're a political machine that in my opinion is not a force for good in this country.

But if we're going to beat them, we can't go to war with a pea-shooter, and we have to have a better alternative. We're responsible as voters for ensuring that a candidate for PM is not beholden to an internal faction of anti-semites - that's profoundly dangerous. We've already seen what happens when voters abdicate on their responsibilities - it only ever leads to disaster.