I Don't Shake Hands, I'm A Muslim.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6067331/Swedish-Muslim-woman-refused-handshake-job-interview-wins-discrimination-case.html

That's okay, here's £3,000 for offending you.

[Khandro]

n. "Sheffield Crown Court heard Kaabar had told friends the Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi should be rewarded and "we need an Islamic state".
Kaabar, from Sheffield, was convicted of two counts of funding terrorism. The student, who was in his first year of a dentistry degree at Plymouth University......,"

He was perhaps looking forward to a career extracting the teeth of infidels without an anaesthetic! (he looks a terrible brute)

Meanwhile the latest London fun-spectator sport is watching women in burkas trying to cross the busy A11 at Mile end - but at over 400 posts, I'd better not start you on that subject.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // andy-hughes to jennyjoan, //If it irritates you, why not ignore it?

Why, instead, are you perpetuating it?//

Because like you, I enjoy debate and an exchange of views - if a thread does irritate me, then I do ignore it.

// No one else need be roped into your suggested week-long embargo. //

It was a light-hearted suggestion, you really do take Islam, and yourself, far too seriously.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //you really do take Islam, and yourself, far too seriously.//

Haha! Yes, I do take Islam seriously, and with good reason – but as for the rest - not that this thread is about me - oh the irony. :o)

spath, the world doesn’t revolve around the people on this thread. Other people have other ideas.

[douglas9401]

Some rather odd early runners in the new, improved handshake thread:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1619924.html

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Yes, I do take Islam seriously, and with good reason … //

But not good enough reason to convince even a close majority on here it would appear, and I wager, even less people in the outside world.

[ladybirder]

That doesn't make her wrong though.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //But not good enough reason to convince even a close majority on here it would appear, and I wager, even less people in the outside world.//

Education is available to anyone with the intelligence to seek it. I am not responsible for other people’s self-imposed ignorance.

LB, :o)

[Peter Pedant]

is this a zombie thread ?
it wont die
and people just recycle their posts from before ( brexit - single sex marriage anything really)
sorreeee...... deep thoughts and well researched replies .....

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // andy-hughes, //But not good enough reason to convince even a close majority on here it would appear, and I wager, even less people in the outside world.//

Education is available to anyone with the intelligence to seek it. I am not responsible for other people’s self-imposed ignorance. //

Just to be clear - you appear to be saying that people are not interested in your Muslim apocalypse theory, not because they simply don't believe it, but because they are too stupid to know what's going on.

[andy-hughes]

ladybirder - // That doesn't make her wrong though. //

It doesn't make her right either.

[naomi24]

Andy-hughes, //you appear to be saying that people are not interested in your Muslim apocalypse theory, not because they simply don't believe it, but because they are too stupid to know what's going on.//

Well… no … I’m not saying that – or anything remotely resembling that. Odd that you should fail so completely to understand my post …. you being such a proponent of education and all.

To Ladybirder, //It doesn't make her right either.//

Until you take the trouble to educate yourself you will never know.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Andy-hughes, //you appear to be saying that people are not interested in your Muslim apocalypse theory, not because they simply don't believe it, but because they are too stupid to know what's going on.//

Well… no … I’m not saying that – or anything remotely resembling that. Odd that you should fail so completely to understand my post …. you being such a proponent of education and all.

To Ladybirder, //It doesn't make her right either.//

Until you take the trouble to educate yourself you will never know. //

On the one hand you say you are not saying people are too stupid to know what is going on - and clearly I am included in that number, and then you say that 'until I take the trouble to educate myself I will never know'.

Once again, you assume you know what my level of education is about anything, and you contradict yourself - am I not too stupid to know, or do I need to 'educate myself' - your shifting position is most confusing.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Odd that you should fail so completely to understand my post …. you being such a proponent of education and all. //

Odd that you should lay the responsibility for your confused arguments at my door - you being such a proponent of Islamic study and all ...

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, Your posts speak for themselves….

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // andy-hughes, Your posts speak for themselves…. //


So do yours!!!

[naomi24]

Thank you. That pleases me immensely.

[andy-hughes]

Really?

Oh well …

The fact is, this thread is degenerating into a personal spat between us, which becomes tiresome for everyone else, and leads to hostility and friction.

You have your view of me, I have my view of you, neither of them are specially flattering, but unlikely to change.

I suggest that we shelve our exchanges and either return to the thread, or reconvene elsewhere, and try not to make our exchanges personal, something of which I think we are both equally guilty.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, I don’t have a view of you, simply of your opinions, which is why my posts aren't personal but relate to the topic - so no, I’m not equally guilty. Reconvene wherever and whenever you like.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - I am concerned merely for the wellbeing of the site, and its contributors, so if it makes you feel better to have the last pop, then feel free.

Hopefully that is an end to our argument on this thread.