Remoaner Donates £1M For Referendum Campaign.

[webbo3]

https://news.sky.com/story/superdry-co-founder-gives-1m-to-referendum-campaign-11476374

Perhaps he should have his clothes made here and pay a decent wage instead of 28p per hour.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/this-shocking-investigation-might-make-you-never-want-to-wear-superdry-again/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/119764/superbad/

http://www.southwestbusiness.co.uk/sectors/retail-and-tourism/04112015090416-low-pay-claim-against-gloucestershire-fashion-brand-business-superdry-in-india/

[Zacs-Master]

All this talk of false hope and ‘it won’t happen’. You do realise this is a campaign referendum on what sort of deal we get, not whether we stay in or go out, yes?
I get the distinct impression some people think it’s the latter and have gotten all foamy mouthed and unreasonable.
I don’t back the idea of a referendum on a deal, by the way, the first one proved the general public to be too stupid to know what they were voting for.

[ToraToraTora]

ok ZM but no one seems to know how it'll work. If it's on the deal then we leave regardless either with no deal or some sort of deal right? But many seem to think if we vote against the deal that means we stay in. I just wish they'd make it clear that we are out regardless and stop giving false hope to the remoaners.

[ichkeria]

I can’t believe anyone would be able to agree on what the options would be.

[Zacs-Master]

‘But many seem to think if we vote against the deal that means we stay in‘

Do they, I've not heard that but it wouldn’t surprise me.

[ichkeria]

Vote against would mean crash out or stay.
The EU would surely not tolerate more negotiation. They want this done and dusted one way or another so they can get on with more important stuff

[ichkeria]

So I can’t see any agreement about which option it would be. Someone suggested all 3 I believe

[Togo]

//The EU would surely not tolerate more negotiation. They want this done and dusted one way or another so they can get on with more important stuff //

You mean like the Frankfurt Plan?

“1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion.
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children.
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority.
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking.
7. Emptying of churches.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime.
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits.
10. Control and dumbing down of media.
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family.”

Read it and weep.

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/11/the-frankfurt-school-and-the-war-on-the-west/

[ichkeria]

What’s interesting is that a lot of people on both Leave and Remain seem to think the EU is really trying to persuade us to/trick us into staying :-)
We are a very divided country tho: not an oppressed people living for deliverance to the promised land

[douglas9401]

I think some of the massive brains on here may have missed that the million is to fund polling by YouGov, not to campaign for anything.

As prominent members of the John Bull Pie and Sausage Appreciation Society you may get your chance to put your opinions to good use.

No NHS lies were told during this comment.

[Togo]

//the million is to fund polling by YouGov//

Translates as "further erode public opinion away from supporting a true separation from the EU pyramid scheme".

[Old_Geezer]

But he's only doing so because he's convinced the poll will show a majority for wanting a new referendum on any deal reached. That, that's the part of the campaign he's saying he's funding isn't so relevant. It's still part of the Ref II demand.

[ToraToraTora]

well the think about polls is that you can easily get the answer you want especially if you are paying.....

[douglas9401]

While 'Brexiteer' translates as slightly effete, dated character who likes to shout a lot and wear Aramis.

All for one and one for a pack of lies on a bus.

Touché.

[andy-hughes]

Zacs-Master - // I don’t back the idea of a referendum on a deal, by the way, the first one proved the general public to be too stupid to know what they were voting for. //

It's interesting how, when the public votes for something in a way which doesn't chime with what you believe, it's because they are too stupid to know what they are doing.

If the public had voted to Remain, no doubt someone else would think exactly the same thing.

The problem is, both of you are basing your notion of the public's 'stupidity' on the simple fact that they disagree with you, which is not really a measure of intelligence, or indeed stupidity, at all.

[ToraToraTora]

"All for one and one for a pack of lies on a bus." - and still they whine about the bus, what lies where on the bus? A statement and a suggestion to those who's first language is English.

[Zacs-Master]

I can only go on the evidence I’ve gleaned from discussing why people voted to leave on here and a few discussions in the real world, AH.
So far, the reasons I’ve been given include being able to buy better lightbulbs, stronger weed killer and paint stripper and something about Sovreignty, and freedom which, when pressed, leave voters can’t even quantify, let alone describe how they’ll improve when we’ve left.

So no, it isn’t because they simply disagree with me (us).

[tonyav]

http://e3.365dm.com/16/06/1600x900/gettyimages-531883850-1-2048x1536_3490755.jpg?20160626132012

[douglas9401]

A blunderbus?

[Old_Geezer]

Quite. As pointed out umpteen times. No lie to be seen.

[ToraToraTora]

cobras ZM you've been bashing on about that drivel for weeks whilst ignoring the real reasons when told dozens of times. Next you'll come out with the "how does the EUSSR" effect your lives tish, yada yada. As AH says, standard "you must be thick if you don't have the correct view" rhetoric. Jelly to the wall mate.