Ashamed Of My Country

[Guilbert53]

For most of my life I loved living in England, I was proud to be English, and thought it one of the best countries in the world in which to live.

But gradually that love has been eroded. I see more and more that I don't like - stabbings, shootings, drug gangs, car thefts, sex trafficing, modern slavery, crime everywhere, and much much more.

Many of these things (slavery, house over crowding) we thought we had got rid of in the Victorian age but they are coming back.

And today I see this on the BBC news page. The Mobike "shared bike" scheme is pulling of Manchester because of continuous vandalism of their bikes.

Ok a small set of crimes in themselves but this company are pulling out of Manchester, the only city in the world where they have had to pull out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-45422065

Sadly we seem to be bringing up a collection of youngsters where anything on the street is "fair game" to be stolen, vandalized, thrown in a canal or whatever.

I said to my wife a few months ago that we are getting a sort of street anarchy among some sections of the community, where they will do anything to "get their own way", even if it means shooting or stabbing someone.

I saw a program the other day where two young punks dragged a woman out her car and stole it. They did not realise that there was a video camera in the car (dash cam) recording everything they said and did.

Part of their conversation covered what they would do if a person resisted while they were stealing their car. "I would kill them without a moments thought" said one of these punks, and this was a guy who was only about 20.

What sort of society are we creating in this country.

p.s. I know someone will blame the Tories for cutting police numbers, and even though I am a strong Tory voter I do feel that this trend should be reversed. However this rise in crime is more than just about police numbers, it is about some sections of society who just don't want to live by any rules.

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose
/// No I live in Northern Ireland which is part of the UK.
Therefore is part of this discussion too. ///

No it is not, this thread is about England, a country in it's own right.

[ummmm]

Oh dear Lord!

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13
/// AOG. It's not your case that needs to be given a rest ///

AOG strikes another fellow ABer's raw nerve.

[dannyk13]

AOG, I do not have a raw nerve, just easily bored with the same posts over and over again.

[Baldric]

Didn't take long for Racism to rear it's ugly head did it?

[LadyCG]

Guilbert, you forgot acid attacks :-(

To address your original post, I agree that we are witnessing an anarchic, uncivilised society take shape.

As I said the other day, let's stop pumping foreign aid into corrupt countries whose indigenous, uncivilised inhabitants are making the pilgrimage to our land to be kept idling forever at our further expense, and spend the money on restoring our Police Force, Armed Forces and Borders Agency.

What the bejusus is wrong with our government? When are they going to stop extending the hand of friendship and charity to those who constantly use it to smack us in the face?

[dannyk13]

Balders, are you really surprised?

[Baldric]

Not at all Danny, par for the course isn't it?

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum
/// Who are the parents of these hooligans and where have they been hiding? ///

They can be often seen hanging around the entrance to the court building shouting that an unjustified sentence has been carried out on their sweet law-abiding son, who only wanted to become a doctor or solicitor.

[ummmm]

Hang around the courts often, AOG?

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13
/// AOG, I do not have a raw nerve, just easily bored with the same posts over and over again. ///

Feel free not to contribute to them then, no body is forcing you to.

[Baldric]

No ummmm, he reads The Mail though.

[dannyk13]

AOG //
Feel free not to contribute to them then, no body is forcing you to//
May I remind you that this is not your thread and whether I make a contribution or not is nothing to do with you.

[Baldric]

/// shouting that an unjustified sentence has been carried out on their sweet law-abiding son ///

Does that ^^^ not answer your question spath?