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For another referendum... but not on leaving just on the terms Oh yeah I bet not.
As usual people are being convinced it isn’t about stay or leave it’s about the terms. That’s OK then the question would be.. do you accept the terms under which the EU have agreed: YES - NO
There is a trueism somewhere that is somwthing along the lines of ‘say something often enough and it will become true.... even if it isn’t’ and ‘the gullible believe what they want to not what is right and history sees what happens’ or something like that.
Useful idiots of the loosing elite.
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As usual people are being convinced it isn’t about stay or leave it’s about the terms. That’s OK then the question would be.. do you accept the terms under which the EU have agreed: YES - NO
There is a trueism somewhere that is somwthing along the lines of ‘say something often enough and it will become true.... even if it isn’t’ and ‘the gullible believe what they want to not what is right and history sees what happens’ or something like that.
Useful idiots of the loosing elite.
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I won’t prattle on because it’s all been done.
But if, as I suspect, this is really about a re-run of the referendum, the TUC is doing its ever diminishing number of members no favours. The majority of working class areas in the country (i.e. the areas where there is likely to be a larger number of Trades Union members) voted to leave. They did so for a number of reasons but among them was almost certainly the fact that uncontrolled migration from the EU has seen the depression of living standards amongst lower skilled workers. The TUC should remember this.
As well as that, the only reason I can see for people asking for a second vote (other than the fact they were dissatisfied with the result of the first) is that Brexit is appearing “too difficult” and may cause a bit of inconvenience. As I’ve said before, that is not a basis on which to make a decision. The Americans (in the words of President Kennedy) did not strive to get to the moon because it was easy. Along the way the suffered tragedy (most notably the death, in a launchpad fire, of three astronauts who were to be the crew of Apollo 1. Nothing could demonstrate the difficulty of their task more than that but they pressed on because the aim was achievable and worthwhile.
People did not vote for a deal, good or bad. They voted to leave.
But if, as I suspect, this is really about a re-run of the referendum, the TUC is doing its ever diminishing number of members no favours. The majority of working class areas in the country (i.e. the areas where there is likely to be a larger number of Trades Union members) voted to leave. They did so for a number of reasons but among them was almost certainly the fact that uncontrolled migration from the EU has seen the depression of living standards amongst lower skilled workers. The TUC should remember this.
As well as that, the only reason I can see for people asking for a second vote (other than the fact they were dissatisfied with the result of the first) is that Brexit is appearing “too difficult” and may cause a bit of inconvenience. As I’ve said before, that is not a basis on which to make a decision. The Americans (in the words of President Kennedy) did not strive to get to the moon because it was easy. Along the way the suffered tragedy (most notably the death, in a launchpad fire, of three astronauts who were to be the crew of Apollo 1. Nothing could demonstrate the difficulty of their task more than that but they pressed on because the aim was achievable and worthwhile.
People did not vote for a deal, good or bad. They voted to leave.
There clearly will not be any stay or leave referendum. Few would be so foolish not to realise the harm done to the country if shown unable to follow through on vital decisions. The image of our nation would drop so low as to ensure everyone would try it on in any deal or arrangement thereafter.
An accept or just get out vote might occur but one hopes the government has more sense than to allow it. But given May's past record as PM I'd not put it beyond her. We'll be spending years trying to modify or get out of any agreement she makes anyway.
An accept or just get out vote might occur but one hopes the government has more sense than to allow it. But given May's past record as PM I'd not put it beyond her. We'll be spending years trying to modify or get out of any agreement she makes anyway.
"Slowly sinking in what the implications could be now, isn’t it."
I think the implications were clear to most people before they voted, Zacs (the government of the day certainly did its best to put them forward in as frightening manner as possible). What wasn't clear is the incredible lengths the government of today is going to to avoid a meaningful Brexit.
I think the implications were clear to most people before they voted, Zacs (the government of the day certainly did its best to put them forward in as frightening manner as possible). What wasn't clear is the incredible lengths the government of today is going to to avoid a meaningful Brexit.
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