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"What constitutes a "valid" Brexit, and how important is it to achieve if the price is economically damaging?" One that restores control over our borders, laws, money and trade. The Chequers plan does none of that. (Even freedom of movement is mentioned with a proviso that EU citizens will still be free to live and work here - with conditions that will be...
16:26 Sun 09th Sep 2018
Let her go and let Boris step in and do to Brussels what he does to his mistresses. I'm backing Boris!
There's a logical fallacy in the argument that the EU has interfered with the UK at such a deep level for the c.45 years in which we've been a member, and the idea that all that can be undone simply by clicking one's fingers.

Except no one has said clicking fingers. We had two years and indeed dont need to change thinks massively to start with anyway, things can be changed with time. Initially though we need to get out and start trading without EU ties and payments (and without mass immigration at the whim of Obergruppenführer Merkle.

Me too JD.
"What constitutes a "valid" Brexit, and how important is it to achieve if the price is economically damaging?"

One that restores control over our borders, laws, money and trade. The Chequers plan does none of that. (Even freedom of movement is mentioned with a proviso that EU citizens will still be free to live and work here - with conditions that will be quietly ditched).

It's important to achieve it because without it the UK will be bound to a declining, moribund, protectionist bloc and the long term economic downside of that will be far greater than anything Brexit will provide. Any short term hit that might (note, "might") arise is the price we must pay for allowing ourselves to be in this ridiculous situation in the first place. It is achievable. Lots of countries (representing about 93% of the world's population) do it.
And me JD.
He's just making a reasonable metaphor for comparison. The reality it exposes is upsetting some and causing them to complain.
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jim; "What constitutes a "valid" Brexit," - what the judge said and I have said ad infinitum.
In Johnsons own words " now is the time to throw a dead cat on the table"
i/e take the story away from his "Bonking Life". and his wifes spot on timing. to call for a divorce.
The biggest problem with Boris is , he has got no trousers.
jim a real debater is what we need, there is only one nigel farage, the eu are scared shitless of him.he would not give them an inch
Lets face it, Boris is just dead catting.
Tommy //a real debater is what we need, there is only one nigel farage,//

Gerard Batten is pretty good too, and he certainly gets my vote.

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