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Brexit Vote Watchdog Got Law Wrong
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Oh dear. Is this body fit for purpose, or was it just a witch hunt by Remoaner personnel within the watchdog?
Oh dear. Is this body fit for purpose, or was it just a witch hunt by Remoaner personnel within the watchdog?
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// was it just a witch hunt by Remoaner personnel within the watchdog? //
Probably the opposite. They originally gave the dodgy Grimes money the green light. It was only when politicians queried that advice that the EC realised it was in breach of the rules. If no one had challenged them, Vote Leave would have got away with over-spending.
Probably the opposite. They originally gave the dodgy Grimes money the green light. It was only when politicians queried that advice that the EC realised it was in breach of the rules. If no one had challenged them, Vote Leave would have got away with over-spending.
neither ( are they crap at their job or are they Brexit aliens)
there is a reasonable expectation that the electoral commission will do um its job. - if they get it wrong then they dont get their arms cut off ( altho you may feel they should )
when the appeal court is overturned by the supreme court
you dont re-educate the appeal judges in "proper judgement boot camp" or slit their throats
The elec commissioin answered ( it said) a what-if question
The tax man wont do that ( try it and see what we say afterwards) and I dont think the police do either ....
there is a reasonable expectation that the electoral commission will do um its job. - if they get it wrong then they dont get their arms cut off ( altho you may feel they should )
when the appeal court is overturned by the supreme court
you dont re-educate the appeal judges in "proper judgement boot camp" or slit their throats
The elec commissioin answered ( it said) a what-if question
The tax man wont do that ( try it and see what we say afterwards) and I dont think the police do either ....
Young Mr Grimes wivvart a penny to his name
spends half a mill on Vote Leave
and the Leave campaign say - Dear Mr grimes - would you like half a million pounds ?
and nice young Mr Grimes says O yes please !
and Vote Leave try to say that this £500 000 is not an expense , to wit it is a donation !
High Court held the orignal determination that it was OK was NOT OK and it was obviously a n expense
wow
spends half a mill on Vote Leave
and the Leave campaign say - Dear Mr grimes - would you like half a million pounds ?
and nice young Mr Grimes says O yes please !
and Vote Leave try to say that this £500 000 is not an expense , to wit it is a donation !
High Court held the orignal determination that it was OK was NOT OK and it was obviously a n expense
wow
// as I read it the watchdog misinterpreted their own rules, //
Wrong. Electoral Law is made by the Government not the Electoral Commission (EC). The EC is there to oversee that the law is being ahered to. In this case, they were clearly very lenient on Vote Leave and believe the huge bung they gave to Grimes was legit, when it clearly wasn’t. When the mistake was pointed out, the EC did a rapid U-turn. Clearly it is a shambles when the EC gives out wrong information. When it favours one side, it is easy to suspect the initial decision to side with Vote Leave was politically influenced, particularly as the spirit of the law was forbid exactly these type of bungs to by-pass the spending rules.
Wrong. Electoral Law is made by the Government not the Electoral Commission (EC). The EC is there to oversee that the law is being ahered to. In this case, they were clearly very lenient on Vote Leave and believe the huge bung they gave to Grimes was legit, when it clearly wasn’t. When the mistake was pointed out, the EC did a rapid U-turn. Clearly it is a shambles when the EC gives out wrong information. When it favours one side, it is easy to suspect the initial decision to side with Vote Leave was politically influenced, particularly as the spirit of the law was forbid exactly these type of bungs to by-pass the spending rules.
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