Was Nigel Farage Right To Condemn Ukip's Leaders Attendance, At This Rally?

[anotheoldgit]

https://news.sky.com/story/menace-and-aggression-dfla-is-new-edl-11500806

Why are the so called 'Antifascists' against those who oppose Muslim child grooming gangs and Islamic terrorism?

[anotheoldgit]

/// Gerard Batten marched alongside the Democratic Football Lads Alliance (DFLA) as they clashed with police who were barricading the march from a separate group of anti-racism protesters. ///

Can anyone please explain, why Is it racism or even fascism to protest over Child Grooming Gangs and Islamic Terrorism?

[youngmafbog]

You will need to find a resident AB extreme liberal lefty AOG.

Unfortunately they tend to go very quiet on there when asked such pertenant questions. That or start calling you names.

[Khandro]

"Its founder called on football fans from around the country to unite against Muslim grooming gangs and Islamic terrorism."

Are they not the objectives of all sane British people?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // Can anyone please explain, why Is it racism or even fascism to protest over Child Grooming Gangs and Islamic Terrorism? //

No I can't - because I believe it is neither, being the only rational response from anyone with a heart and a brain.

[andy-hughes]

To address your OP AOG - I would suggest that no-one is against protests against grooming gangs and terrorism.

It's the fact that the 'Democratic Football Lads' Alliance' is the organisation involved.

I am unsure what is 'democratic' about them - but it sounds like a nice legitimising word, even if they probably don't know what it means.

Lads? Seriously? There appear to be a majority who are well over the age of twenty, and are therefore not 'lads' in any sense of the word.

'Football'? What has football got to do with it, apart from the dubious fact that the founder is a football hooligan?

The issue as I see it is this - human nature loves bonding and belonging. There are a large number of young men who enjoy feeling part of a 'brotherhood', united in what on the surface is an admirable cause.

The difficulty is that, so often with these rallies or marches, as with the EDL, BNP, et al, it is almost no time before they revert to a mob mentality like football hooligans.

They like to rush around, pumped full of self-righteous anger and adrenaline, shout at the tops of their voices, and hopefully get to punch a police officer.

That is simple mob hooliganism under the excuse of a righteous cause, hi-jacked by brain-dead numpties who like hitting people and causing mayhem.

The simple fact is, this type of march is utterly counter-productive, because it is the violence that will make the media stories, and the violence that will become the badge of the organisation, whether it actually deserves it, or not.

[Spicerack]

Somebody missed their tablet at 14:40.

[andy-hughes]

Spicerack - // Somebody missed their tablet at 14:40. //

A little too cryptic - care to explain?

[ichkeria]

Just to state the obvious: if Mr X opposes something bad - Y - but is in all other respects an obnoxious git, you can call out Mr X for what he is and it doesn’t mean you support Y.
I guess it’s a desperate sort of moral blackmail but it doesn’t get anywhere near base camp in the logic stakes

[Gromit]

When Farage was leader, UKIP got 4 million votes in the 2015 General Election.
With Batten as leader, UKIP got 1% of votes in May’s local elections.
Farage knew his audience, Batten doesn’t.