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// If the black woman who got "beeped" at found it racist / offensive, then it was exactly that. // Spath appears to be saying something ridiculous here, and indeed he is, but in actual fact he's just stating the position of the law. The police are obliged to investigate any incident that the accuser defines as being racist. "He looked at me in a way I interpret as...
13:21 Mon 05th Nov 2018
Ummm, no but it is the law of racism.
Are we now in the ridiculous situation where if I hoot at a black person for dawdling then it can be a hate crime, but if the positions are exactly reversed and they hoot at me it cannot be a hate crime?

If that is true then "The Law is an Ass".
Well said dave!
sunny-dave - // re we now in the ridiculous situation where if I hoot at a black person for dawdling then it can be a hate crime, but if the positions are exactly reversed and they hoot at me it cannot be a hate crime?

If that is true then "The Law is an Ass". //

As I understand it, you have exactly the same recourse to this badly worded law, for exactly the same reasons, so if you want to go ahead and see something that isn't there, this bad law will support you.
Do you honestly believe that Andy
I apparently must be racist then as there is an Asian Taxi driver who regularly parks his taxi so no-one can get past it down a very narrow, not much used, street in our town. I beep him when I want to get past and he comes out and moves it. I don't beep him because he's Asian I beep him because he's parked like a Turnip. He clearly understands that bc he puts his hand up and yells 'sorry'.
Why is there no common sense anywhere it seems?
Oooo....you are going to have to be so careful now, Spath...for if you ever beep at me for any reason I will accuse you of hate against the Irish.....
I know you'd have no way of knowing I'm Irish....but I only have to take it that way then.....and say so?..... :-)
Bananasplits - // Do you honestly believe that Andy //

To be clear - yes I believe it.

But that's not the same as saying that I think it is good law, with good use in defence of racial minorities, clearly, as this incident shows, it is not.
I must admit, it is one of my pet hates when people sound their horn needlessly and illegally, like this woman did.

// The Highway Code stipulates that drivers should only honk their horn when their car is moving or they need to warn others of their presence. ... The Highway Code also states drivers must not sound their horn aggressively, while stationary on the road //

If she wanted to tell the other driver off for being slow, she should have got out of her car and talked to him. But of course she isn’t going to do that.
Could it be that the devil's advocate has been at the devil's Advocaat?

Anyway, the hootee has succeeded in making me a "hater" so that's something I suppose.
Gness and by law it would be a hate crime if you felt that way ;)
gness - // I know you'd have no way of knowing I'm Irish....but I only have to take it that way then.....and say so?..... :-) //

There are plenty of ways, and you know it -

You wear green every day, your car has a tricolour flying from your radio arial, you have red hair and green eyes, and you don't walk down the street, you dance in a cod-Flatley style. You really should be prefacing every post with 'To be sure ... ' to avoid confusion.

I do wish you'd stop being difficult!!!!!
She should've played the age card to try to trump the race one and win the trick.
Still room for doubt though, no pig under the arm. ☺
And no surprise Gromit finds a way to diss the old Lady.

This is clearly nonsense, the law needs amendment to focus it correctly.
Gromit, she wasn't on a road.
You forgot the can of Guinness in one hand and the shillelagh in the other, Andy..... :-)

Spath....if laws are meant to keep the peace this one is going to have the opposite effect with disastrous consequences.... :-(
Ymb,
I was not dissing the old lady, just pointing out she was breaking the highway code.
Seems there is a lot of stupidity about, shame to see ymb adding to it.
"Spath....if laws are meant to keep the peace this one is going to have the opposite effect with disastrous consequences.... :-("

I agree but the law that "if one takes offence even if none was intended then it is in fact racist" came up recently in a thread regarding dressing up as samuel L jackson. Even though no one meant offence, the fact someone took offence in a racial way made the situation racist. We, nor the lady peeping the horn can say how it made the black lady feel. If she felt it was racist, then apparently it was.

I do not agree with this law, at all. In fact i think it makes people vulnerable.

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