Trouble In Pardise Part 6

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46417991
If they do this over fuel prices what are they going to do after brexit when their taxes rise to pay for the hole in EUSSR finances?

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PARADISE! doh!

[emmie]

riot some more, i must say when they go to town they really do it..

[jim360]

As links go it's pretty tenuous really.

[ichkeria]

It’s over fuel tax of course. To date Nacton has managed to face down various protesters. Hopefully he will do the same with these.
The French have always loved a good riot: no change there :-)

[ichkeria]

Macron (!)

[emmie]

no heads rolling this time though, nor ladies knitting underneath Le Guillotine.

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ichkeria
It’s over fuel tax of course. To date Nacton has managed to face down various protesters. Hopefully he will do the same with these.
The French have always loved a good riot: no change there :-)



They are at it in Holland and Belgium as well.

[emmie]

so they are, let's hope it doesn't reach to these shores.

[ichkeria]

The riots in France which have been going on for at least a week, are over Macron’s plans for green taxation.

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ich the title says : "France Fuel Protests:..."

[mushroom25]

//The riots in France which have been going on for at least a week, are over Macron’s plans for green taxation. //

that was the trigger. however the policy disproportionately affects the poor who cannot afford public transport and have to drive to work, so it's grown into more of a socialist movement about inequality in French society.

[Togo]

There is a thread running in chatterbank TTT, with a bit more info available.

Once again Parisians woke up on Sunday after a very rough night. Burnt cars, broken shop windows and rioters running through the streets were all they saw and heard.

//For the third weekend in a row, the ‘gilets jaunes’ played an all-day cat and mouse game with police forces, leaving the French government to consider whether or not to call a ‘state of emergency’ for the French capital and order the military to come in and restore order//

https://thegoldwater.com/news/43444-France-State-Of-Emergency-Being-Considered-As-Riots-See-Paris-Burn-Again-Video

[Togo]

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1069150335690829825

[ichkeria]

Hmm I think it’s a combination of factions. “Ordinary people” plus the usual highjacking by extremists of left and right.
And like I say it’s the taxes strictly speaking not the “prices”, tho of course the former puts up the latter. As in this country people get cross because they think the taxes are unnecessary, while no one bothers to protest about other factors that put the prices up

[Togo]

Typical really. 61% of the French voted for Macron and his socialist agenda expecting hand outs and freebies all round. Now 70% support the rioting and protest that have ensued. With the prospect of decreased revenues for the slush fund, once that Britain exits the pyramid scheme, Macron has been forced to increase the price of fuel by 23% in the last 12 months,(all nicely dressed up as a save the planet exercise) and here in Britain we have millions of similarly deluded advocates of the EUSSR insisting that we are manacled to the handrails of a sinking ship.

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togo: "61% of the French voted for Macron and his socialist agenda expecting hand outs and freebies all round." - yep! PMSL! as TGL famously told us, the problem with socialism is that you soon run out of other peoples money to spend.

[-Talbot-]

That quote is almost correct, ttt.

[Togo]

Oh dear.... even the jerries are getting a bit windy.

//Paris Is Burning - EU Press Asks Whether Macron ‘Can’ Continue?
The German tabloid Bild is the bestselling newspaper of the largest economy on the European continent, and thus one of the biggest newspapers being read daily. During the weekend, it normally runs front pages about anything the Germans are interested in, which means that today you would expect Merkel or the Bundesliga (German soccer league) to be the headline.
Unsurprisingly however, they went with the question that many European newspapers are asking today given the three straight Saturdays of rioting seen in Paris.
Bild asked: How long can Macron still ‘survive’ politically? Over in Spain, El Pais had the same question.
Three weeks ago, it looked like the ‘gilets jaunes’ (yellow vests) protest would be a 1-day thing. But after 280,000 people protested on the first Saturday, the anger against Mr Macron’s government spread into roadblocks and a social media outpouring about a president who’s not in touch with his own people.
President Macron and his wife Brigitte decided to visit befriended heads of state in Germany and Belgium during the first week of the protests whilst his own people were waiting for him to say something.
Only two weeks into the protest did the centrist President answer the call and gave a speech, saying he ‘understood’ the protesters but refused to give in to any of their demands.
Ever since then, the protests have only hardened, and even spread to neighboring Belgium (and since this weekend also in Holland). //

If the first sign of ‘yellow vest’ protests were ever to be seen in Germany this week, you can be sure that the European heads of state would urge the French president to react differently.......You can say that again.

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""According to political scientist Pascal Perrineau, he has lost three parts of his voter base: the left and the centre-left through his fiscal measures in favour of the rich; pensioners who have suffered cuts; and the middle classes and young voters.
With these last ones, the bottom is falling out of Macronism: there is no longer any centrism as defined by Macron’s famous “at the same time” expression.
The only winner of all these protests so far: Marine Le Pen, the presidential candidate who was accused of being ‘too populist’ when she ran against him. By now, many protesters say they’ve made a wrong choice last year.""

[Togo]

December the 9th may be "illuminating".