Isn't This Just Wasting Time And Effort

[emmie]

surely the EU have told us what their plans are and it doesn't
include any more concessions. So what is Mrs May doing there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46515743

[dannyk13]

Gasping at straws

[emmie]

gasping indeed....

[dannyk13]

^Grasping^

[emmie]

but what next, i can't see this deal going through and the EU are not mucking about when they say no further concessions, i can't understand why she at least did the decent thing and called the vote last night.

[Zacs-Master]

She's in a no-win situation (for a Pro Brexit geovenment who are in danger of alienating 50% of their voters) to whit; Don't try to negotiate and have the deal thrown out / go and test the mettel of the EU and try to get parliament to accept a tweaked deal.

[emmie]

but no amount of tweaking is going to get this deal done surely..

[ludwig]

Yes, it is just a waste of time. The vote needs to be taken, the deal voted down, and then we move to the next stage. No-one knows what that stage entails yet, but we're never going to know unless we actually reach it.

[dannyk13]

ZM, I don't think that a'tweaked' deal will satisfy anyone, particularly the DUP.

[emmie]

ludwig
couldn't agree more, get this deal thrown out and let's see if we can move on from there. I honestly don't know what she is doing going cap in hand to Brussels, smacks of total desperation.

[emmie]

No the DUP seem to all intents and purposes wanting to kick this into the long grass.

[Kromovaracun]

The purpose of this is so that May can cling on to power. As some pundit recently observed - she has wanted this job since her 20s and likely believes that only she is equipped to meet these challenges.

There's really not much else to it.

[weecalf]

About how much would this little trip around Europe cost .Who pays ?

[ludwig]

The EU have already said they won't do any tweaking. At the most they'll offer 'clarification'.

The delay is pointless.

[emmie]

doesn't it come out of government budgets, i would have thought, but ultimately it's the tax payers who pay, don't they always!

[Kromovaracun]

And in the meantime I have no doubt that May's team will deploy every measure at their disposal to try and "convince" dissenting Tories to toe the line.

It probably won't work of course. But May's political tombstone might end up reading '2016-2019' rather than '2016-2018'...

[jno]

likely believes that only she is equipped to meet these challenges

she might have a point. I can't see anyone, in any party, better equipped. Anyway, her party was democratically elected so all this talk of deposing her is shamefully undemocratic. We should quietly accept the government that Tory voters picked for us.

[emmie]

i didn't pick Mrs May her party did,and though i voted Tory at the last election, i didn't want her as leader.

[Adfa]

You wanted David Cameron then
How did that work out?

[jim360]

Commons business today is mainly about asking a slightly different question: is this an underhand attempt to force this deal to be accepted either because there is literally no time for anything else, or because Government will find a way to nullify the "meaningful vote"?

In either case it's disgusting behaviour on behalf of the government.

[Zacs-Master]

I wonder if there will be a 'Chamberlain moment' when she steps off the plan back in Blighty if the EU won't budge?