Corbyn Doesn't Not Do A Motion Of No Confidence...

[Kromovaracun]

Last night Jeremy Corbyn tabled a Motion of No Confidence... In the Prime Minister personally, rather than the government.

In contrast to a normal MONC, this is a completely non-binding motion and would be purely symbolic. But Labour have indicated that if the govt doesn't make time for his meaningless MONC (which the govt can probably win), then he might be forced to use the proper one. Meanwhile the Lib Dems and Greens are trying pointlessly to amend his pointless motion to make it less pointless...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-46599895

Just what is the Leader of the Opposition playing at? What on earth is the point of all this?

[cassa333]

The trouble with May is that she says one thing and does another.

I fully expect her to announce a second referendum at any moment:-(

Corbynistas are as delusional as remainextremists.

[jim360]

// No Deal is not an option says Maybe a few weeks ago. and this morning she has held a meeting with her Cabinet to discuss a No deal. //

In this particular case, the problem for Brexiteers is that the meeting has come rather too late -- and I think that's probably not a bad way of looking at it. If May's deal is rejected, and if no other option is forthcoming, then we are legally obliged to leave the EU, and will do so with No Deal. If that happens then the government is clearly right to at least try to prepare for this eventuality.

[dannyk13]

The discussions on what provisions are to be made in the event of a no deal Brexit have been going on for weeks.Each government department has a minister to oversee this.

[jim360]

Meanwhile, enjoy this clip combination of Corbyn in Parliament recently:

[Kromovaracun]

I don't know how many times this needs repeating, but there are serious limits to how far we can prepare for a no deal scenario. Even within the limits of what we can do, hardly any of the money alloted to no-deal preparation has been spent.

[jim360]

I'm not disputing that, but still thought gulliver's post was missing the mark rather.

[dannyk13]

Kromo. This was a good start to preparing for no deal:-

https://order-order.com/2018/12/17/uk-eu-agree-maintain-common-transition-convention-even-no-deal/

[ludwig]

// The discussions on what provisions are to be made in the event of a no deal Brexit have been going on for weeks. Each government department has a minister to oversee this. //

The trouble is that these discussions should have started two years ago.

[aelmpvw]

//there's always the potential of a Corbyn run government to consider//
diane abbott as chancellor of the exchequer, what could go wrong?

[dannyk13]

ludwig. How do you know that they didn't?

[cassa333]

Of course there are limits to preparing for a no deal. There are limits to preparing for any deal. Because any deal won’t deal with everything.

There will undoubtedly be hiccups and although David Davis has said preperations have been going on since the beginning May has only just got onboard (possibly!!) and is supposedly pushing preperations on at a pace.

[ludwig]

// ludwig. How do you know that they didn't? //

I don't, but if they did and we don't know about it, that's also a cock-up. It should have been made clear right from the start that if we didn't get a good deal, we would not only be willing, but fully prepared to walk away with no deal.

Instead of which they chose to tell everyone to not worry about a hard brexit because we'll definitely get a brilliant deal because we're so great, thus pretty much allowing the EU to dictate the terms knowing we'd do anything to avoid a no-deal.

[dannyk13]

Ludwig, although the hope is that we will exit with a deal, surely, it is only common sense that we should prepare for any outcome.

[ludwig]

//.. surely, it is only common sense that we should prepare for any outcome. //

Exactly, and my point is that we should have started that preparation two years ago and making it clear that we were doing so.

The irony is that it would have most likely helped us get a better deal.

[dannyk13]

Ludwig. as you have agreed that you don't know when these preparations started your latest post is rather superfluous. As to being kept informed, do you expect the government to announce everything that they are doing? If you do, then I think that you are being a little naive. ,

[Jackdaw33]

In any event this motion is doomed as the Tory rebels will rally round May to a man.

[dannyk13]

Jack, the motion is now non-existent as no time was granted to Corbyn for it to be voted upon. He was informed that he could propose a motion of non confidence in the Government but he declined the offer.

[ludwig]

// As to being kept informed, do you expect the government to announce everything that they are doing? //

This shows that you don't understand the point I'm making.

[dannyk13]

Ludwig, then perhaps a little more clarity in your posts is called for.

[ludwig]

// Ludwig, then perhaps a little more clarity in your posts is called for. //

I think they're pretty clear. Try reading them more slowly.