Gang Crime Is Not A New Problem

[spathiphyllum]

"Anyone who thinks "blackness" is a common denominator for crime, clearly doesn't understand what a common denominator is".

https://twitter.com/channel4news/status/1102685970720272384

[Spicerack]

Excuses, excuses.

[spathiphyllum]

"Lets just look at the maths. There are 1.2 million black people in London. In a bad year, 50 of them will kill someone. That's less than 0.004% of the black population. Therefore anyone that thinks blackness is a sufficient common denominator for violent crime clearly doesn't understand what a common denominator is. Just to contrast, in a bad year in Glasgow - Say 2005 - There were 40 murders. There were only 600,000 people in Glasgow. So that year, a Glaswegian - as a whole - was twice as likely to be killed as a black Londoner. Whereas the commonalities, when you actually look at the demography of violent crime, the commonalities remain the same in Glasgow, Liverpool, Belfast, Naples or London. Racial explanations are sort of a way out for powers that be; a way out for the wider society. And it's revealing that what happens in London is 'black-on-black' crime - even when the person committing is like me, has one white parent and one black parent. When it happens in Glasgow race is not important. "

[steg]

///When it happens in Glasgow race is not important. ///
Naw it’s what fitdaw team you support ;)
The ugly sisters hate each other and every one else hates the ugly sisters

[david small]

Statistics are not to be relied upon. To quote..there are lies, Damn lies, and statistics.

[steg]

Even fitbaw team*

[spathiphyllum]

But black on black crime is a statistic, so that can't be trusted either?

Yes you can argue with statistics, but you can't argue with raw maths.

% of population for example vs % of crime

[Spicerack]

'In a bad year, 50 of them will kill someone.'

Pft, is that all. I don't know what all the fuss is about, splat.

[Canary42]

It's good to see at least one other non-racist on here spath. Hopefully we will eventually prevail against the bigots.

[spathiphyllum]

I think what akala said and how he said it was very professional and presentable. How can you argue with it? The guy does extensive research and is a genius on black history and black society.

[-Talbot-]

Canary42
It's good to see at least one other non-racist on here spath. Hopefully we will eventually prevail against the bigots.



What an idiotic thing to say. (probably another one without a single black friend) look at me...look at me calling out racists....look at me.

[spathiphyllum]

What does having a black friend have to do with racism? I don't have a black friend but I have nothing against having a black friend i've just not got one. Just like i havent got a fat chineese friend.

[youngmafbog]

Each "common denominator" is different for each Town/City/Area.

You cannot take a stat from one area and compare it to another.

To ignore race (any race) as an element of a problem does no one any good.

[-Talbot-]

I do have a fat Chinese friend actually.

Tim...he owns the local chippy and like a gamble.

[youngmafbog]

Talbot, do you live in Radford, Nottingham? Tim Fuk house was one of the best chippies/chines that I've ever had.

[spathiphyllum]

YMB apparently that's not true though. If you look across Glasgow, Liverpool, Belfast, Naples or London you will find that the common denominators are typically lack of education (people who have been expelled), people from domestic abuse relationships and then ultimately poverty.


They have nout at all to do with colour

[spathiphyllum]

"To ignore race (any race) as an element of a problem does no one any good."

And to focus on race, when it's not a common denominator by any means, doesn't do anyone any good either.

[youngmafbog]

When looking at problems you do not discount anything.

Neither do you take any other area and think what works there will work somewhere else.

I didnt say it was the problem, if you bothered to actually read my post, rather I said you should not ignore race as a possible contributing factor..

[-Talbot-]

youngmafbog
Talbot, do you live in Radford, Nottingham? Tim Fuk house was one of the best chippies/chines that I've ever had.



No, I don't and Tim doesn't cook any Chinese food.

Fish n chips or kebab

[youngmafbog]

Spath, as usual you are unable to see the bigger picture an are reading things that are not there.

I'll leave it at that, you are impossible to debate with.

[spathiphyllum]

YMB It's actually you who is impossible to debate with, because you come out with tripe like that instead of talking about the topic at hand. Why not try to help me understand you, instead of spout out some pompous crap?

Have you watched the video? You have a educated black man saying how crime correlates from 3 defining factors, and you just said "yeah but we can't just rule out race" i'm saying no, we can. If you think that's an impossible debate then go read something and come back with more substance.