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Diane Abbott, Never Fails To Be Controversial.
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Unfortunately as it is, surely anyone in public office is equally vulnerable?
Unfortunately as it is, surely anyone in public office is equally vulnerable?
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// Didn't Jeremy Corbyn have an alleged sexual relationship with Diane Abbott in the 70s? //
having a bad sight day and read this as:
Corbyn have an alleged sexual relationship with Diane Abbott in his 70s
and thought - o god ( or oh Gawd in fluent AB) AOG what a dirty old man ....
[ as in - oh god - look at Corbo, AOG, Corbo is a dirty ...] just to be clear ......
having a bad sight day and read this as:
Corbyn have an alleged sexual relationship with Diane Abbott in his 70s
and thought - o god ( or oh Gawd in fluent AB) AOG what a dirty old man ....
[ as in - oh god - look at Corbo, AOG, Corbo is a dirty ...] just to be clear ......
// we should all suck up abuse in our daily working life//
did all these super-sensitive ABers never hear
sticks and stones will break my bones ....
or perhaps it is so long ago - they have forgotten
o hahahaha I must tell you - I was irritating the teenagers in my evg class and so they had to shout their subdued possy put downs because otherwise I wouldnt hear their scathing remarks .... fun class apparently a/c to the teacher .....
did all these super-sensitive ABers never hear
sticks and stones will break my bones ....
or perhaps it is so long ago - they have forgotten
o hahahaha I must tell you - I was irritating the teenagers in my evg class and so they had to shout their subdued possy put downs because otherwise I wouldnt hear their scathing remarks .... fun class apparently a/c to the teacher .....
retrocop - // Welcome to the real world you hope to preside over as Home Secretary Ms Abbot. You will be overall in charge of policing which includes Female officrs who will risk abuse,assault,sexual harrasment and attempts,in extreme cases, to kill them.
They will face those unpleasant situations 24/7 in all weathers and do not enjoy the armed protection you would get travelling from your abode to the comfy environment of the H of C. Just suck it up. It goes with the territory for those who do their duty without complaint. //
Your comparison is utterly without merit.
Female police officers do contend with all the negative aspects of their job that you have mentioned - but that does not make their job comparable with that of an MP.
Police officers undertake their career knowing that potential violence, and maybe death, is a very real daily risk that is undertaken in order to protect the public on a day-to-day basis. That does not in any way compare with what an MP could reasonably expect to deal with undertaking their daily role, which is completely different.
So there is no comparison at all there - except one - female police offers should not have to suffer threats and abuse any more than female MP's, and to suggest that because one does, the other should as well is to ignore the vital point - neither of them should suffer at all.
They will face those unpleasant situations 24/7 in all weathers and do not enjoy the armed protection you would get travelling from your abode to the comfy environment of the H of C. Just suck it up. It goes with the territory for those who do their duty without complaint. //
Your comparison is utterly without merit.
Female police officers do contend with all the negative aspects of their job that you have mentioned - but that does not make their job comparable with that of an MP.
Police officers undertake their career knowing that potential violence, and maybe death, is a very real daily risk that is undertaken in order to protect the public on a day-to-day basis. That does not in any way compare with what an MP could reasonably expect to deal with undertaking their daily role, which is completely different.
So there is no comparison at all there - except one - female police offers should not have to suffer threats and abuse any more than female MP's, and to suggest that because one does, the other should as well is to ignore the vital point - neither of them should suffer at all.
//neither of them should suffer at all. //
Well done for stating the bleedin obvious.
I am sure Mr Nigel Farage and certainly the late Margaret Thatcher received death threats. That is why senior cabinet ministers receive armed Special Branch protection. That has been the same for years.
If you put yourself in public office you are bound attract dissenters against hard decisions one makes as the roles you choose dictates.
Spend your working life as an office boy working amongst a load of girls and you are hardly likely to expect death threats at the end of your working day . Likewise selling buttons in a haberdashery dept in a store. You will hardly attract threats of rape should you inadvertently short change a customer. Of course Jo Cox should not of been murdered because of her role as a Labour MP but that is a risk you take whenputting yourself at the fore in public office.
If Ms Abbott has not realised those risks by now then she should give up politics instead of bleating about her lot in life.
Well done for stating the bleedin obvious.
I am sure Mr Nigel Farage and certainly the late Margaret Thatcher received death threats. That is why senior cabinet ministers receive armed Special Branch protection. That has been the same for years.
If you put yourself in public office you are bound attract dissenters against hard decisions one makes as the roles you choose dictates.
Spend your working life as an office boy working amongst a load of girls and you are hardly likely to expect death threats at the end of your working day . Likewise selling buttons in a haberdashery dept in a store. You will hardly attract threats of rape should you inadvertently short change a customer. Of course Jo Cox should not of been murdered because of her role as a Labour MP but that is a risk you take whenputting yourself at the fore in public office.
If Ms Abbott has not realised those risks by now then she should give up politics instead of bleating about her lot in life.
retrocop - // //neither of them should suffer at all. //
Well done for stating the bleedin obvious. //
Actually, judging by the post to which I responded - it does not appear to be obvious to you at all.
You seem to regard it as an occupational hazard for female police officers, so female MP's should just, to use your delightful turn of phrase - 'Suck it up'.
Now you are contradicting that view - you really need to make your mind up before committing fingers to keyboard.
Well done for stating the bleedin obvious. //
Actually, judging by the post to which I responded - it does not appear to be obvious to you at all.
You seem to regard it as an occupational hazard for female police officers, so female MP's should just, to use your delightful turn of phrase - 'Suck it up'.
Now you are contradicting that view - you really need to make your mind up before committing fingers to keyboard.
retrocop - // Yes. Well done. It happens to be an occupational hazard for all personal in the armed forces and those in public office. That should be recognised and accepted. If you can't accept the risks involved then find another career. It is a horrible world out there and you can't stop that happening. //
I don't need to be thanked for pointing out that you often post without thinking what you are saying - but again, you completely miss the point I am making.
It absolutely should NOT be 'recognised and accepted … ' as though women should simply shrug their shoulders with a 'Hey what can you do ...' smile on their faces.
If we as a society accept this as an 'occupational hazard', then there will never be any incentive to change the way people live their lives, and no effort to ensure that women, and men, do not have to accept threats and violence - because they don't have to accept it.
At all.
Ever.
I don't need to be thanked for pointing out that you often post without thinking what you are saying - but again, you completely miss the point I am making.
It absolutely should NOT be 'recognised and accepted … ' as though women should simply shrug their shoulders with a 'Hey what can you do ...' smile on their faces.
If we as a society accept this as an 'occupational hazard', then there will never be any incentive to change the way people live their lives, and no effort to ensure that women, and men, do not have to accept threats and violence - because they don't have to accept it.
At all.
Ever.
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Folk in the Armed Forces are liable to be in potentially dangerous or life-threatening situations. Ultimately they could be involved in a war.
Those in the police often have to get involved in stressful and violent situations. If someone has to be arrested, it is likely that person will object either verbally or physically.
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Those in the police often have to get involved in stressful and violent situations. If someone has to be arrested, it is likely that person will object either verbally or physically.
Those
The person being arres
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Those in the ambulance service or medical professions are often subjected to verbal or physical abuse from those who may or may not be aware of their actions.
I can not see a reason for abusing those in a public position merely because of the opinions they express. Why on earth should we expect them to take it on the chin and just treat it as part of the job?
Those in the ambulance service or medical professions are often subjected to verbal or physical abuse from those who may or may not be aware of their actions.
I can not see a reason for abusing those in a public position merely because of the opinions they express. Why on earth should we expect them to take it on the chin and just treat it as part of the job?
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