The Noes Have It

[vetuste_ennemi]

Ayes: 242
Noes: 391

[ichkeria]

We can’t vote to delay things strictly speaking. We can, and presumably will, ask for the EU to grant an extension and if that happens repealing of statutes or whatever would not be an issue. Otherwise tomorrow’s vote would be a farce.
There won’t be No Deal. The PM cannot bring herself to say it. If she did say it she might get her deal through. Or a version of it.

[fiction-factory]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
This sets out the What Happens Now timetable.
Some will dismiss it though as it's from the BBC (or Beep Beep See in some AB posts)

[Togo]

Tomorrow is the big one. The vote on whether to take so-called no deal Brexit off the table. Dare the turncoats and 5th columnists do it and have their names damned forever. Not just at the next round of elections but for ever. I have trawled the interwebby and think that this is as good a summing up as there is out there. Do not feel compelled to read it.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/12/uk-parliament-votes-on-theresa-mays-brexit-deal-for-second-and-probably-final-time/

[ichkeria]

Cheers.
I don’t
4 independents voted with the government tonight: presumably one Lib Dem (minus the party whip) one Ulster Unionist, and I wonder who else

[ichkeria]

The vote tomorrow doesn’t actually take No Deal “off the table”

[ToraToraTora]

interesting link FF, no where does it say when they'd repeal the EU leaving act.

[New Judge]

"...or can’t you tell the difference between Sammy Wilson and say Andrew Murrison"

I've as much idea who those two gentlemen are as I have of what an "ultra Brexiter" is! To my mind there are only two camps: those who want to remain in the EU (either wholly or partially) and those who wish to leave it (properly). I imagine your ultra Brexiters form the latter group.

[JF85]

"... one Ulster Unionist"

Care to name names? I am not aware of any UUP MPs.

[ichkeria]

Tora if you mean revocation of Article 50, that is covered at FF’s link, saying it would be likely to happen only after a referendum or an election

[ichkeria]

Jf: Lady Hermon, an independent Unionist

[gulliver1]

IT's beginning to look like we are heading towards , extending article 50 , and certainly not leaving on the 29th of March, or even NO Brexit at all
"Beware the Ides of March, eh! Oh Dear.

[ToraToraTora]

no I mean the European Union Withdrawal Act 2018:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_(Withdrawal)_Act_2018

[ichkeria]

NJ: Sammy Wilson is such an extreme Brexit proponent that when one of the papers did a who’s who of the different Brexit and Remain factions in parliament, the member for East Antrim was in his own group of one. He speaks in terms of “agents of Brussels” and tends to make Jacob Rees-Mogg look like Jean Claude Juncker

[ichkeria]

Tora: but that’s revocation isn’t it?
Or have I misunderstood you?

[ToraToraTora]

no it's a law, it either stands or is repealed. It was enacted as a result of invoking A50 but it is not dependant on it. If we are to not leave on March 29th, it will have to be repealed. Voting against no deal is is meaningless on it's own it would have to be followed by other things to prevent no deal in reality.

[Togo]

If the turncoat EUSSR lickspittle apologists manage to delay Brexit it will not turn out well for the crumbling pyramid scheme. The EUSSR will get no peace from the UK and coupled with the rise of the anti EUSSR sentiment across the whole of mainland Europe we will be in a position to bring it crashing down around their ears. If we do not leave we will likely place 50 anti federalists right at the black heart of the globalist slave traders. That will be an immediate disaster for the secret committee members. They are, as we speak, all looking for a way to protect what they have embezzled and secreted away in Switzerland and need a little more time. If we remain they will not get it. Perhaps we should stay.....we started the revolt.....should we not be there to join the celebrations. Just like last time?

[ichkeria]

I don’t think that’s right: if it was then we’d not be able to ask for an extension. And if it IS right, and the EU agrees to an extension, then I dare say at that point it could and would be repealed, so that stage is implicit.

If the EU says “no” to an extension, or conversely says yes but demands one of at least a year, then I don’t know what happens. Unfortunately that’s why I don’t think No Deal is necessarily dead even after tomorrow.

[ichkeria]

That reply to tora

[ichkeria]

It was very interesting to hear the people from Sunderland including the priest being interviewed earlier. The later convinced the people of Sunderland are now turning away from Brexit.

[ToraToraTora]

ich it's an act of parliament it will need to be repealed if we are not to leave. If we successfully apply for an extension we also will have to repeal the act before 29/3 or that will be meaningless.