Is No Deal Now Innevitable?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47660019
They'll only get the extension if Parliament approves the deal as is. That seems unlikely given the numbers, so shall I order the champagne for next Friday?

[Old_Geezer]

Good jest.

[ToraToraTora]

other way round ludders, if the deal is rejected the date is April 12th

[New Judge]

"other way round ludders, if the deal is rejected the date is April 12th"

Until it gets to April 12th, that is.

[naomi24]

Haha! Exactly. Ludwig had it the right way round.

[agchristie]

April 12th - The French gave the captain of the Titanic the first warning about an ice field.

Doomed!

[ichkeria]

The French wanted us out on March 29. Germans Dutch and others wanted to give us more of a chance. Do those two dates are a compromise.
Next week in parliament should be fascinating. It will surely see the Prime Minister resign. Won’t it?

[naomi24]

To be replaced by whom?

[jim360]

I think Theresa May is chasing the record for "most times a PM should have resigned but didn't".

[ichkeria]

Well as long as her deal theoretically remains on the table she will stick at it. If it looked like a drastic change of course such as a long postponement was in the offing then she would surely stand aside. Apart from anything else she won’t be leading her party into another election. So time would be needed to prepare for that especially if the govt looks under threat.

[andres]

Well at least,once we are out, we should be able to use the millions that we send every week to the EU in whatever way we choose to. Not forgetting the £3 billion a year that we collect in tariffs from countries outside the EU but at the moment have to hand this over to the EU.No wonder they don't want us to leave.

[Kromovaracun]

They do want us to leave though:

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-03-22/eu-leaders-want-rid-of-brexit-poison/

[youngmafbog]

Nah, they just want our money, if only there was a way they could get us locked in with no say but stumping up .......

[ludwig]

TTT // "other way round ludders, if the deal is rejected the date is April 12th" //

This from BBC website..

// If the prime minister can't get the deal through, the UK will have to propose a way forward by 12 April for EU leaders to consider.
European Council President Donald Tusk said all Brexit options would remain open until then.
"The UK government will still have a choice between a deal, no deal, a long extension or revoking Article 50," he said.//

In other words the can gets kicked down the road til April the 12th, at which point we don't leave without a deal, we do something else. Theresa May will have gone by then, and someone else will be asking for a long extension.

[ToraToraTora]

ludders, the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47663031
"If Mrs May can get her withdrawal deal through Parliament next week, that date will be pushed back to 22 May to give time to pass the necessary legislation.

If the prime minister can't get the deal through, the UK will have to propose a way forward by 12 April for EU leaders to consider."

[cassa333]

Well 1/2 million people and 2 & 1/2 million auto bots and outside influencers have signed the remain petition.

[hereIam]

And the farce continues !!!!

[jim360]

Is it really so hard to believe that there might be that many genuine Remain supporters signing the petition?

[ichkeria]

It’s not easy for “bots” to infiltrate the petition-signing process. Not saying it’s impossible but it would certainly present a challenge. There were issues a few years back with the “hold another referendum one” when 70,000 or so signatures out of over 4 million were removed.
More of an issue I’d have thought would be people using all their email addresses : I’ve got about 6 for example, but I don’t know if the “checks” they use can detect identical IP addresses using different emails.
Anyway, nearly 3.5 million now: another 13.5 and Andrea Leadsom will he panicking :-)

[Old_Geezer]

No-deal is still on the list, the EU's deal will either be rejected again or not voted upon, May won't be gone by April 12, and the threat of consequential umpteen votes/options is a clear indication of desperation. One wonders what the HoC think will be the consequences of failing to get out after the further fortnight delay.

[pixie374]

I would expect the number of signatures there to be at last 16 million. Have lots changed their minds?