One Can Show Respect For The Victims Of This Tragic Attack, But Isn't This Show Of Togetherness And Solidarity Now Going A Little Too Far?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6840741/The-hijab-wearing-female-police-officer-striking-picture-holding-rifle-went-viral.html

[sanmac]

New Zealand is being praised when in fact they've become the poster child for appeasement.

[agchristie]

Andy,LOL!

[jackthehat]

The Government and Security Forces of NZ have a duty to protect their citizens.
Perhaps by their actions (although it may look like appeasement from thousands of miles away) they may prevent any retaliatory acts from Muslims who may believe they have a duty to 'even the score'?

It doesn't mena that they have to 'give ground' in any other way....

[Prudie]

I've been quite surprised at how much these women in NZ wearing a scarf has been so praised, especially on AB. I can't quite see why this isn't considered cultural appropriation? Do you have to dress up to show solidarity? It's almost no different from blacking up were the victims 'people of colour' and that would be quite outrageous.

[Mamyalynne]

I feel there has been plenty of negativity Prudie, what I see as a mark of respect others may see as something different - we shall never all agree.

[-Talbot-]

https://twitter.com/ConfessionsExMu/status/1109631835472957440


Tell me she's wrong?

[Mamyalynne]

I don't make a habit of telling people they are wrong, I simply say what I feel.

Am I wrong to do that?

Probably but it's how I respond.

[vetuste_ennemi]

You'll never wake the woke, Talbot.

[-Talbot-]

Well, you haven't said what you feel on this occasion, Mamya.

[Mamyalynne]

Are you asking me if I would have donned a scarf as Constable Evans and others did?

In truth, I don't know , doubtful that I would have unless entering a place of worship- should she/they?

How on earth can I answer for someone else.

Had I worn one and a Muslim lady tell me I was being most unhelpful then I would happily remove it.

[Mamyalynne]

If I still haven't answered the question , then I'm obviously too dense to understand it - sorry.

[237SJ]

I`ve donned the scarf and the abaya. Only when I have to. Why would anyone choose to wear them otherwise (including a lot of Muslim women that I have met)

[-Talbot-]

I was clearly (or so I thought) asking if the woman in my link was right or wrong.

[Mamyalynne]

Is the lady speaking in the Twitter link right or wrong ?- I can only say she obviously knows her subject better than I do, so presumably she's correct.

My contact with Muslims is based around everyday conversation and not World wide political issues.

[naomi24]

I wonder if anyone who thinks this was a good idea has read Talbot's link?

[Peter Pedant]

// That is fine just as long as the gesture is returned ie certain religions dressing in western attire as a show of respect for the Western victims of terrorist. attacks.//

AOG you silly sausage ! you are almost there with the elephant in the room !
(cries from Abers - heffalump what dat den? wear da elephant den?)

Jacind turned up in a maori cloak to 'show respect' where no maoris were killed, the killer wasnt a maori and she isnt either
and bareheaded as Maori grils do ....unmarried maoris I suspect

pt 2 when the queen mum visited the bombed out east end ( no not last week of course - she's dead! yes I know we are on AB) some marxist said - oh come in your finery to visit your subjects
and the queen mum said
well you would wear your best if you came to visit me wouldnt you?

so it is a good point
at various social contact points - one wears various clothes to match the event - and says formulaic things
but who decides what?
and what is respectful?

sociologists of AB - on your marks !
[ or asTTT says - I am going to start a countdown: ten ..... eleven ..... I'm counting everyone!]

I will start off for AOG
AOG: when oh when! will the men in this country realise that the whites (the white voters- the ones who matter) in this country deplore the trend ....

[Peter Pedant]

// Are you asking me if I would have donned a scarf as Constable Evans and others did? //

very good point Mama

1970s when a sikh squaddie was blown up in N I - his pals attended the funeral at the local gurdwara ( Ni - eek forrin! others - what dat den?) and they wore knotted hankies on their heads as they had to cover them as a mark of respect

In Cracow in the ruined synagogue - I was asked to wear a yarmulka and I said I am christian and they said no matter

Young gurls in Rome in a church - you still wear stuff on your heads innit?

mosko - take your shoes off - shirt and trousers

AND .......

when I saw someone wearing a rosary as a neck chain ( fella ) I did say -" look you know this is a religious objaaaay and has meaning?" and he said - I certainly do Sir! I use it to drag girls into bed Sir, I'll wager a donkey tit to a silk purse that you have never had more than one at a time (*)
and I said,
oh they come in convent loads do they?
and he said .....

(*) readers MAY see a parallel to Warren Clarke as a walk on in Blakadder

[naomi24]

^The women weren't in a mosque. They were relegated to the back of the crowd along with the rest of the women. Par for the course.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Indeed, and I notice the Mail's new policy of only showing an image if Liz Hurley if there is a 'y' in the day of the week!! ///

Oh andy you seem to have an inbuilt obsession for scouring the Mail for images of pretty young ladies scantily dressed or not.

Yes I admit to using the DM for most of my news links, but I must admit I never ogle the side bar for beautiful ladies and I can never remember seeing images of Liz Hurley in the years that I have been reading the DM news, never mind on a daily basis.

My I suggest if you have an objection towards the content of the DM, don't bother scrutinising it.

[agchristie]

AOG //I can never remember seeing images of Liz Hurley in the years that I have been reading the DM news, never mind on a daily basis.//

How could you miss the pictures just the other day featuring the iconic Versace 'safety pin' dress? ;-)