Is It Now A Sacking Offence To Voice A Legitimate Question??

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6894517/Gordon-Strachan-faces-axe-Sky-fury-grows-sex-offender-comments.html

Referring to convicted sex offender Adam Johnson possible return to top class football, Sky Sport's Gordon Strachan, asked this.

/// 'If he goes on to the pitch and people start calling him names, have we got to do the same as it is to the racist situation? Is it all right to call him names now after doing his three years - have we got to allow that to happen?' ///

[-Talbot-]

anotheoldgit
-Talbot-

This is what he asked:

/// 'If he goes on to the pitch and people start calling him names, have we got to do the same as it is to the racist situation? ///


There's no mention of Johnson's skin colour ... you introduced that for whatever reason.

I witnessed what Strachan said days ago.

https://twitter.com/BeardedGenius/status/1114203787336519680

Clumsy.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Let me try and explain it to you Zacs, Is it right to call this white footballer names, when there is such a outcry over calling black footballers names?"

Black footballers are being abused only because of their colour. Is it likely that Johnson will be abused ONLY because he is white?

[Hafter]

[url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6894517/Gordon-Strachan-faces-axe-Sky-fury-grows-sex-offender-comments.html]What The Funicular[/url]

[Zacs-Master]

To state ‘Is it all right to call him names now after doing his three years - have we got to allow that to happen?’ is a legitimate question didn’t really get the thread off to a good start.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// Is it likely that Johnson will be abused ONLY because he is
white? ///

No of course not and neither have I suggested that, but I have been diverted down a back alley by the usual AB diverts and away from my original question.

"Is It Now A Sacking Offence To Voice A Legitimate Question"??

[ToraToraTora]

I think it's a legitimate question. It's quite likely that Johnson will be targeted by fans and it's quite legitimate to ask how that will be dealt with. He's not comparing Paedophilia with racism, calm the hysterics people.

[Zacs-Master]

He’s not asking how it should be dealt with, tho. He’s asking whether ‘we’ should allow it to happen. Clearly anyone who answered or answers ‘yes’ is fruit loop.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, clearly colour matters to you, why else would you have said that Johnson is white?

[Zacs-Master]

Question Author ‘I wonder what would have happened if the sex offender also happened to be a black footballer?’

Then writes ‘I have been diverted down a back alley by the usual AB diverts and away from my original question’

Shakes head.

[Calicogirl]

It's not okay to yell abuse at anyone, and as someone else says it's endemic in football ( ask Posh Spice).

But the question of skin colour vs someone having a criminal record is garbled and nonsensical, and Gordon Strachan worded what he meant clumsily. I don't think for a minute he attempted to make comparisons between black people and paedophiles (which Johnson isn't anyway but that won't stop the use of the word) but it was pointless folly to even mention the way racial taunts are dealt with in the sentence. Just crass stupidity rather than malice I imagine.

[ToraToraTora]

read between the lines TJM by saying "is it alright to call him names?" when it obviously is not, (you even say so yourself), is inferring that the football authorities/clubs would have to at least attempt to deal with it.

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah, buts that’s bleeding obvious. Goes without sayin dohnit gavner.

[agchristie]

I may be proven wrong but the chances of AJ making a comeback to 'top class' football are extremely small.

Nothing to stop it being a topic for discussion on SKY but broaching the subject at all was inviting trouble and embarrassment all round.

Strachan is a victim of circumstances.He gave a valid view which revolves around abuse in general towards a player(s) which is never acceptable.

The analogy towards racism is a reasonable comparison to make.The point Strachan made is quite clear.The potential end result is the same in both cases.

Is there a sliding scale of morality between the offences AJ committed and racism towards black players?

There is no place for any offensive behaviour from spectators whether that is verbal abuse or running in to the pitch assaulting them.At least in the latter case the courts sent a strong message out.

It's about time the powers that be in football got to grips with all forms of abuse instead of issuing pointless fines and demanding matches to be played behind closed doors.

Time to sort out the real issues and not damn Gordon Strachan for posing a thought provoking question.

[sp1814]

It is not the job of a sports presenter to echo the crowd.

It is not a legitimate question at all.

The comparison to black footballers is odd. Adam Johnson is a convicted felon. Black footballers are not 'guilty' of being black.

[Old_Geezer]

An opinion ? Heck one risks the sack just for stating unpopular facts ! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6874645/Google-workers-want-ultra-conservative-AI-council.html

[agchristie]

Sp //The comparison to black footballers is odd//

Not when messrs Rose and Sterling have called out abuse.

Gordon Strachan was making the comparison that if Johnson was to play and receive abuse,how should it be handled?

[sp1814]

O_G

Google is a private company (although publicly traded). It can decide what it wants from its internal ethics advisors.

[sp1814]

agchristie

Black people should not receive abuse for being black.

Adam Johnson had sex with an underage girl.

There is no comparison.

Stop it.

[agchristie]

Sp,black players should not receive abuse I agree.Convicted felon or not,spectators would not be entitled to abuse Johnson either if he was playing.

[Khandro]

Zacs //No, sorry. There’s no logic there, even after your explanation. Anyone who thinks it’s ok to shout abuse at anyone is a cretin.//

Maybe, but even cretins have the right to freedom of speech, - as can be witnessed daily on AB