What Do Our Ardent Brextremists Think Of This U-Turn By One Of Their Erstwhile Supporters ?

[Canary42]

There are some interesting Tweets and other opinions throughout the article.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/leading-brexiteer-peter-oborne-calls-213940300.html

[-Talbot-]

Yawn.

[Canary42]

First intelligent response.

[-Talbot-]

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[ichkeria]

He's on Channel 4 now

[douglas9401]

Never seen so many white folk on a news programme.

[ichkeria]

That woman on with him, Melissa Kite, looks like she is about to have a seizure :-)

[douglas9401]

He'll doubtless be tarred as the face of the Vichy British ere long.

Ee, I made me mind up about everything in 1967, changing your mind is the sign of a traitor.

And so on until the sandman comes around or t'firkin's empty.

[New Judge]

Mr Oborne writes for the Daily Mail. For some inexplicable reason the Mail, since Christmas, has been imploring its readers to support Mrs May's appalling (non) Brexit agreement. It seems a reasonable step, bearing in mind that agreement is as dead now as it was when it was first presented to Parliament, to move on and suggest either a long postponement or abandonment altogether (the two likely to ultimately amount to one and the same).

Mr Oborne suggests that the "economic arguments have been destroyed". Whether or not that is so I neither know nor care because the economic arguments were never a consideration for me.

[cassa333]

Brexit wasn’t predominantly about economics. It was about sovereignty.

Just because this bunch of useless wasters haven’t done thier job properly doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

In fact a lot more has actually been done for a no deal Brexit than has been talked about.

[ABerrant]

"For some inexplicable reason the Mail, since Christmas, has been imploring its readers to support Mrs May's appalling (non) Brexit agreement."

(Brexiteer) Paul Dacre stepped down as editor of the Daily Mail in September 2018. He was replaced by (Remainer) Geordie Greig.

[New Judge]

Yes, that may go some way to explaining it.

[ichkeria]

Yes we’d rather pretend we would rather be the “sovereign poor” (a tacit admission that so-called project “fear” was right) : no wonder the rest of the civilised world is laughing at us.
Not, I suspect, that that preference would last.

[New Judge]

I suppose it depends very much whether you believe we would become the "sovereign poor" as opposed to the "supplicant rich". Personally I don't believe that we would. The way things are going it may well be that many of the EU27 turn out to be the poorer, but it's an argument that never entered my head when I cast my vote. If you want to sell the nation's soul for ten pieces of silver that's your privilege. But those views did not prevail in the referendum.

[-Talbot-]

no wonder the rest of the civilised world is laughing at us.

Civilised?
like Macron's France?

[agchristie]

//For some inexplicable reason the Mail, since Christmas, has been imploring its readers to support Mrs May's appalling (non) Brexit agreement//

Yes,having had some sympathy for the 'Spartans' the emphasis then turned sharply on them giving up before it was too late and to support Mrs May's deal because her deal was better than the other alternatives.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//If you want to sell the nation's soul for ten pieces of silver//

I'm embarrassed by having to correct one of AB's Brexit champions for two pieces of uncharacteristic sloppiness.

Firstly the sum alluded to was thirty, not ten, but now is more like forty and denomiated in Euros not si.

Secondly, in the surreal world of May's government it's Judas who's pays, not the Sadducees.

[vetuste_ennemi]

...not silver

[New Judge]

Thanks for the kind correction, v_e but I'd I deliberately undervalued the sale because I think that ten pieces of silver is about all we gain from EU membership! Thirty is way over the top and I'd prefer silver to euros! :-)

[jim360]

It's clear that the editorial line of the Daily Mail on Brexit has shifted of late, but I still think it's possible for Peter Oborne to be speaking for himself. And in any case, even if Leave-voting supporters of, either, a Withdrawal Agreement, or some sort of pause in the process to consider the matter and the approach more carefully, are in the minority, they do still exist. Brexit "puritanism" seems to be taking over the debate, on AnswerBank especially.

[New Judge]

"Extremists" or "Puritans". I don't know what's best!!! :-)