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Tommy Robinson Has Promised To Donate His Mep Salary To Victims Of Sexual Abuse If He Is Elected In The North-West Of England.
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But apparently the co-director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition says it doesn't want his money.
/// This messaging simultaneously makes the safety and very bodies of women and girls of colour invisible – because it is seemingly only white girls’ bodies that need protection, even though black and Asian girls have been significant among child sexual exploitation victims. ///
Where has Tommy Robinson suggested anything like this, and why can't Far-Right people also show concern for women's safety regardless of their colour or race?
I think that this woman has a very large chip on her shoulders and is a disgrace to 'ALL' women who have unfortunately been abused.
But apparently the co-director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition says it doesn't want his money.
/// This messaging simultaneously makes the safety and very bodies of women and girls of colour invisible – because it is seemingly only white girls’ bodies that need protection, even though black and Asian girls have been significant among child sexual exploitation victims. ///
Where has Tommy Robinson suggested anything like this, and why can't Far-Right people also show concern for women's safety regardless of their colour or race?
I think that this woman has a very large chip on her shoulders and is a disgrace to 'ALL' women who have unfortunately been abused.
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JF 85 - I haven't had an opportunity to work on that particular case study but if you give me some figures to work with I'll do my best. As for my small/large minority statement -
I'd call 2% a small minority, and 18% a large minority.
I did a rough calculation based on the Rotherham case, and 18% is at the lower end of the scale I arrived at - obviously, in this group only the MEN of a certain age group are counted.
Rotherham is very well documented and provides the necessary numerical data, and the muslim community is quite small (around 3.7% of the total population).
So how many men of a certain age group do you think it takes to abuse so many children on such a scale over so many years?
I'd call 2% a small minority, and 18% a large minority.
I did a rough calculation based on the Rotherham case, and 18% is at the lower end of the scale I arrived at - obviously, in this group only the MEN of a certain age group are counted.
Rotherham is very well documented and provides the necessary numerical data, and the muslim community is quite small (around 3.7% of the total population).
So how many men of a certain age group do you think it takes to abuse so many children on such a scale over so many years?
Ah, I'm with you now. You are not saying that 18% of Moslems have been convicted of being members of grooming gangs (about 100,000,000 men), nor that 18% of the Moslem population of Rotherham have been convicted of similar offences (about 900 men, using your 3.7% Moslem figure).
What you are saying is that 18% of a group within the male Moslem population, chosen by you but with no criteria for us to test, are guilty of a heinous offence?
On that basis, of a group of Catholic priests within a certain undisclosed age band chosen by me, 100% have been convicted, and I am not even insisting they have to be male.
I look forward to TR milkshaking the Pope.
What you are saying is that 18% of a group within the male Moslem population, chosen by you but with no criteria for us to test, are guilty of a heinous offence?
On that basis, of a group of Catholic priests within a certain undisclosed age band chosen by me, 100% have been convicted, and I am not even insisting they have to be male.
I look forward to TR milkshaking the Pope.
Numbers are a smokescreen, as is the heart-rending waffle about devoting lives to fighting for victims’ rights and the lack of government funding, etc. The fact is charities work for specific causes and the cause of these charities is not to fight a political fight. If they can afford to refuse donations that are coming from a legitimate source, then they don’t consider the cause they support to be paramount and hence, they shouldn’t be in the job. I wonder if the politics of other donors is questioned? I’d guess not.
"some people prefer to meddle and doddle and hide behind numbers than to engage in the actual meaningful content"
Thanks for that. It helps to establish that your comments are based on loyalties rather than anything that has actually happened.
I made a comment earlier about the story. ProfessorMaisie took exception to my suggestion that the number of people involved in grooming gangs is a minority of those who abuse women and children, preferring to asset that they are a significant percentage, and that 18% of an undefined subset of Rotherham Moslems had been responsible for the offences, even offering the percentage of Rotherham that is of the Islamic faith.
At no point did I quote figures until they were used in an attempt to undermine my argument, which is a simple one: the charities work to mitigate the harm done to victims, while TR is more concerned with identifying the minority of abusers who work in gangs. No figurescare needed for that, hence none were offered.
Thanks for that. It helps to establish that your comments are based on loyalties rather than anything that has actually happened.
I made a comment earlier about the story. ProfessorMaisie took exception to my suggestion that the number of people involved in grooming gangs is a minority of those who abuse women and children, preferring to asset that they are a significant percentage, and that 18% of an undefined subset of Rotherham Moslems had been responsible for the offences, even offering the percentage of Rotherham that is of the Islamic faith.
At no point did I quote figures until they were used in an attempt to undermine my argument, which is a simple one: the charities work to mitigate the harm done to victims, while TR is more concerned with identifying the minority of abusers who work in gangs. No figurescare needed for that, hence none were offered.
If the percentage of Muslim gang rapists in Rotherham were vanishingly small, more or less equivalent, say, to the number of non-Muslims involved in such crime, and that the Muslim "community" as a whole was just as horrified by the abuse as the rest of decent society, then it follows that there would have been no need for a ten year cover-up.
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