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Tommy Robinson Has Promised To Donate His Mep Salary To Victims Of Sexual Abuse If He Is Elected In The North-West Of England.

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anotheoldgit | 12:52 Tue 14th May 2019 | News
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/13/tommy-robinson-sexual-abuse-victims-european-elections

But apparently the co-director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition says it doesn't want his money.

/// This messaging simultaneously makes the safety and very bodies of women and girls of colour invisible – because it is seemingly only white girls’ bodies that need protection, even though black and Asian girls have been significant among child sexual exploitation victims. ///

Where has Tommy Robinson suggested anything like this, and why can't Far-Right people also show concern for women's safety regardless of their colour or race?

I think that this woman has a very large chip on her shoulders and is a disgrace to 'ALL' women who have unfortunately been abused.

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"They are quite a large minority of that faith."

Thank you. I wasn't certain how many members of the second-most widely practiced religion in the world are involved in grooming gangs. If you could include a percentage comparison of Christian men with your figures that would be handy.
JF 85 - I haven't had an opportunity to work on that particular case study but if you give me some figures to work with I'll do my best. As for my small/large minority statement -

I'd call 2% a small minority, and 18% a large minority.
I did a rough calculation based on the Rotherham case, and 18% is at the lower end of the scale I arrived at - obviously, in this group only the MEN of a certain age group are counted.
Rotherham is very well documented and provides the necessary numerical data, and the muslim community is quite small (around 3.7% of the total population).
So how many men of a certain age group do you think it takes to abuse so many children on such a scale over so many years?
Ah, I'm with you now. You are not saying that 18% of Moslems have been convicted of being members of grooming gangs (about 100,000,000 men), nor that 18% of the Moslem population of Rotherham have been convicted of similar offences (about 900 men, using your 3.7% Moslem figure).

What you are saying is that 18% of a group within the male Moslem population, chosen by you but with no criteria for us to test, are guilty of a heinous offence?

On that basis, of a group of Catholic priests within a certain undisclosed age band chosen by me, 100% have been convicted, and I am not even insisting they have to be male.

I look forward to TR milkshaking the Pope.
JF 85 - Well, I thought that was quite a large percentage!
I really don't know what it would take to get you to care, so I won't bother discussing it with you any further.
Numbers are a smokescreen, as is the heart-rending waffle about devoting lives to fighting for victims’ rights and the lack of government funding, etc. The fact is charities work for specific causes and the cause of these charities is not to fight a political fight. If they can afford to refuse donations that are coming from a legitimate source, then they don’t consider the cause they support to be paramount and hence, they shouldn’t be in the job. I wonder if the politics of other donors is questioned? I’d guess not.
....one last thought - if they ever manage to prosecute 18% of the Rotherham rapists (using your figure of 900) I'd have a bit more faith in our system of justice.
It's strange, but quite common, that some people prefer to meddle and doddle and hide behind numbers than to engage in the actual meaningful content of the situation.
If that was meant for me sanmac, I can assure you that all of the figures you need are in the public domain - you just have to take the trouble to do the maths (and JF 85's knee-jerk estimate is a woeful underestimation of the true scale of the problem).
The lady was silly to say what she said really..

She should have just stayed Shh.
PM, no, no, not you. I was referring to Jf85.
Sorry sanmac, I see what you mean now.
sanmac at 18:13, it's the easy way out. It saves them having to acknowledge the real issues.
"some people prefer to meddle and doddle and hide behind numbers than to engage in the actual meaningful content"

Thanks for that. It helps to establish that your comments are based on loyalties rather than anything that has actually happened.

I made a comment earlier about the story. ProfessorMaisie took exception to my suggestion that the number of people involved in grooming gangs is a minority of those who abuse women and children, preferring to asset that they are a significant percentage, and that 18% of an undefined subset of Rotherham Moslems had been responsible for the offences, even offering the percentage of Rotherham that is of the Islamic faith.

At no point did I quote figures until they were used in an attempt to undermine my argument, which is a simple one: the charities work to mitigate the harm done to victims, while TR is more concerned with identifying the minority of abusers who work in gangs. No figurescare needed for that, hence none were offered.
Well if it's only a minority of the minority raping and trafficking why are we even bothered?


Always amazes me why some people jump through hoops to defend actual rapists.

Waits for the cries of 'I'm not defending them'
Tarmy is gonna go down for contempt
long before that innit?

down doobie do Down-down.... as neil sedaka used to sing

is this actionable - if he doesnt?
7vote for me and I will give it all to sick horses and bunnies and he doesnt
can you sortta claim your vote bacck ?
// Numbers are a smokescreen,//

hi ni are you the lady that says the magic number that voted for brexit is 52 and that is most certainly NOT a smoke screen ?

yes I believe you are that girl

but what the hell - this is AB. yes I TRY to keep up but she spins so fast that it makes ME wobble !
If the percentage of Muslim gang rapists in Rotherham were vanishingly small, more or less equivalent, say, to the number of non-Muslims involved in such crime, and that the Muslim "community" as a whole was just as horrified by the abuse as the rest of decent society, then it follows that there would have been no need for a ten year cover-up.
pp, you really shouldn't believe what your imagination tells you. It's imaginary.... you know ... not real. That wobbling needs checking out. Speak to your doctor.
spathiphyllum// AOG, if it was then why is Tommy doing Sarah Champion's job?//
What job would that be. Getting sacked by Labour for talking about Muslim grooming gangs?
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/// I wonder if the politics of other donors is questioned? I’d guess not. ///

Just like the religion of the donators is never questioned.

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