Who On Earth Invited Trump To Darken Our Shores?

[diddlydo]

Why are we entertaining this moron largely at the taxpayer's expense?

[alavahalf]

AGC .. go back to 09.53 post.

[agchristie]

Alavahalf - thank you!

[spathiphyllum]

Danny considering it was over 50 years ago, and times have changed, why does it matter? Different age why should we constantly be homaging Dday etc.. maybe you should, but to those who it doesn't have nada to do with, why should they? History goes back further than 1900 also.

[Khandro]

I'll do it again for those who missed it;

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[naomi24]

//Different age why should we constantly be homaging Dday etc.. maybe you should, but to those who it doesn't have nada to do with, why should they?//

It has quite a lot to do with you, spath. It's the reason you are free to say what you're saying.

[Jackdaw33]

How pathetic. People still celebrate the foiling of the Gunpowder Plot, and that was in 1605, 412 years ago.

[spathiphyllum]

"It has quite a lot to do with you, spath. It's the reason you are free to say what you're saying."

Debatable. Butter fly affect and all that. I probably wouldn't exist. And i never asked for life. Things re how they are.

We don't recognise the first war in recorded history, which took place in Mesopotamia in 2700 BCE between Sumer and Elam. Although that certainly also has affect on what i'm saying and how freely i'm saying it.

Catch my drift?

[spathiphyllum]

"How pathetic. People still celebrate the foiling of the Gunpowder Plot, and that was in 1605, 412 years ago."

Yes, and a lot of people don't.

[mushroom25]

//but to those who it doesn't have nada to do with, why should they?//

there are those who said WW1 was the war to end all wars. but it wasn't. WW2 was the most destructive conflict in history and its effects were profound and far reaching, some of which are still being felt today (eg it turned the US from debtor to creditor nation leading to the dollar becoming de-facto safest world currency), (eg there was much upheaval in the middle east after the war, and the area is still riven with conflict), (eg it led to the creation of the UN and many subsequent conventions that citizens today take for granted).

it may be 75 years ago but events then shaped today's world in a way no previous conflict ever did. it will be a long time before it ceases being relevant.

[dannyk13]

It will always be historically relevant.

[jim360]

Seems a bit of a stretch to say that D-Day particularly was responsible for us to "say what we're saying". By about that time the war had already swung in the Allies' favour, and D-Day was mainly about establishing a third European front and so ease the pressure on the Soviets in Eastern Europe. None of which is to imply that it wasn't massively important, and particularly in the 75th Anniversary it deserves to be remembered, along with those who died that day and in the months that followed.

[tamborine]

Spath, this is why we cling to our old allies who helped our liberty & freedom - which the EU try to erode.

[retrocop]

//Danny considering it was over 50 years ago, and times have changed, why does it matter? Different age why should we constantly be homaging Dday etc.. //

D-Day must be celebrated as long as there are better men than you alive that still remember the horrors they endured and suffered. The world is a better place for the bakers,milkmen,gardeners,teachers,just ordinary people who didn't know what to expect but still had the moral grit to do what was right and expected of them.Whilst some still live we owe them much and should show the veterans our gratitude. Their pain doesn't diminish and neither should our thanks.
If you purchase certain newspapers this week there are some horrendous accounts of what happened that day to ordinary young men. Their mates headless corpse when a panzerfaust blew it off.He won't be delivering the mail after the war will he?Just ordinary brave men and you query why we thank them?

[ichkeria]

It’s worth also considering that had D Day not occurred when it did - and been successful - Stalin’s army would have advanced much further west.
Not a comforting thought.

[retrocop]

//Stalin’s army would have advanced much further west.
Not a comforting thought.//
The way a lot of French behave one would of thought Stalin's Communism had got that far.

[fender62]

retrocop, lol

[naomi24]

Jim, //Seems a bit of a stretch to say that D-Day particularly was responsible for us to "say what we're saying". //

That's not what was said. Spath said 'Dday etc.'

[ichkeria]

Well, that’s novel.
I was expecting a joke about Corbyn but instead I’m trying to imagine 21st century France as Stalinist Russia ;-)
I suppose one could equally say that sometimes it feels as though WE never advanced further east ourselves after June 6 ..

[hereIam]

The Queen was fabulous at that Banquet, she was gracious, friendly, made a wonderful speech and, as usual, was a great credit to this country (absolutely dread the day we lose her). She did Trump proud and gave him the welcome befitting a President of the USA and I bet he appreciated it. God bless you Ma'am xxxxx