Grenfell Tower Area 'little Africa

[fender62]

i cannot say i ever been near that area, but is the allegation or (slur) true, by the unnamed councilor..the only thing i ever read was flats were sublet to illegals and migrants ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7112925/Council-officials-called-Grenfell-Tower-area-little-Africa-says-MP.html

[youngmafbog]

No, as Douglas has pointed out. Some cities maybe but not the Country.

And even in those Cities, not to the degree we see today. Early 20C it really was confined to London.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Does he know anything at all about the history of these islands? Beaker people, Celts, Gaels, Romans, Saxons, Danes and Normans? The genetic mix and cultural fusions?

Immigration? Huguenots in the 17th century? Jewish refugees in the late 19th century? Polish refugees after WW2?

Oops, 300,000 immigrants a year since 1990.

[spathiphyllum]

V_E, proving the UK has been multicultural for a while. You know, even from when the vikings invaded Scotland.


YMB, yes, of course it would be confined to the major cities. However, just because immigrants werent flooding to the country side, doesn't mean multicultural diversity was confined to UK cities and not the country as a whole. The cities are the country.

Anyhow, the history of diversity is kind of moot, the point of the matter is, now, the UK is massively multi cultural, and it's something to be proud of. Comments from the senior labour MP were bang out of order from my opinion.

Do you have any kids that go to school? Or grand kids? Ask them how many people in their class are from different descent. You may be suprised (or not) to find it will be a good 40-50%.

[spathiphyllum]

Since the world use to be known as Pangaea with one continent. The whole idology to me, people thinking they belong somewhere on the earth, or if they feel they have ownership over some land, makes me chuckle.

We're humans on a rock. You may be British but doesn't mean you have any right to anything, especially land.

The world has and always will be multicultural, and every country on it.

[vetuste_ennemi]

My last post was a response to this egregious ignorance stopping at the "always has":

"The UK has, and always has, and always will be, a very largely multi cultural country."

The "always will be" is a frightening concept. London knife crime and the rape of your daughters, Spath? If you care about either of those.

[naomi24]

//always will be, a very largely multi cultural country." //

Don't bank on the 'always'.

[spathiphyllum]

How long have you been sat in front of the computer? Maybe a trip to London would settle your paranoia.

There is no threat from a multicultural society. The threat comes from people not accepting others, which is exactly what you're implying you'd do.

If you think multi culture = rape and knife crime, you're a prejudice racist.

[spathiphyllum]

I'm actually a bit surprised we went from a multi cultural society to rape and knife threats. How does a multi cultural society impose those kind of threats?

[naomi24]

//The threat comes from people not accepting others//

Does that apply to all cultures?

[spathiphyllum]

"Does that apply to all cultures?"

Well why would it only apple to British people? Humans are humans. We all need to accept each other.

N b4 "well they need to integrate into OUR society" no, it's a bit of both.

[naomi24]

//Well why would it only apple to British people?//

Why indeed - but the fact is some cultures aren't bendable.

[spathiphyllum]

Bendable?

If that's how you see it.... ???

What you mean is some people from some cultures aren't "bendable"

Odd word to use. Sounds forceful. Sounds like you know how you want to bend them, with no bending of yourself.

[naomi24]

Yes, I see what you mean, spath. I'll rephrase it. Some cultures aren't willing to bend.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I think the unemployed gardener has missed the point.

I mentioned rape.

He is clearly incapable of seeing that a "culture" which endorses rape is incompatible with a culture which excoriates it.

But no amount of argument will straighten that skewed mind out, will it?

Rape bad? Spot on. Rape good? Spot on.

You could get more brains by sticking your hand in a Scrabble bag and coming out with all the blanks.

[spathiphyllum]

So before we start mentioning specific cultures, which cultures are you two thinking of that apparently endorse rape, and aren't willing to bend?

[vetuste_ennemi]

I mentioned "ignorance2 and the last post has made my point.

[spathiphyllum]

I just need you to say it, V_E. I'm not ignorant to your implications.

[spathiphyllum]

I can't provide you with statistics regarding rape if you're not willing to mention the culture(s) which you're discussing.

For example, you may find that Japan has a bigger sexual assault problem than the UK.

If you think of the culture you're referring to, maybe compare the figures?

[naomi24]

spath, There a two cultures within our society that will not bend. One keeps itself to itself, demands nothing, and creates no difficulties for the rest of society - the other does the opposite.

[spathiphyllum]

I see you're keeping me guessing then. ;)