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If the issue is that he "lied" and "lie" means not exactly, factually, or literally true, and that higher standards are required of any politician, then does it not follow that all political rhetoric (i.e. debate with a bit of fun) is prohibited?

And that the same strictures which criminalise any departure from literal truth condemn at the same time all caricature, parody, satire and wit?

So that's got rid of Scarfe, Hogarth and Rowlandson, Spitting Image and the Life of Brian. What are we left with? Anna Soubry and Fiona Bruce?
the amount does not matter, it maybe not what said amount ? but
whatever it is, it's to much in the hands of a corrupt eu.
Esau was an hersuit man, but swapped his birthright for a mess of potage.
Fair play
//The rich judiciary close ranks with their Tory cronies and dismiss the impertinent pleb's revolt.//

Or it might be (perish the thought) that there really is "no case to answer" under the law as it stands and that the private prosecution was flawed from the outset. Never mind, Mr Ball will have more of other people's money to spend on cupcakes (and the rent on his Docklands flat) now.
New Judge
// I suspect Marcus Ball will be refunding some of the "crowd funding" he managed gullible idiots to part with (since he no longer needs it).//

One would think so, wouldn't one.
But don't hold your breath.
Mr Ball has past form for paying himself swingeing 'fees' for his 'activism' out of previous crowd funding campaigns.
We all saw it on television, she wasn't touched, unlike all those Brexiteers having been milk-shaked.
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What a load of crap. As I said on the initial thread way back when, whilst I’m no fan of Soubry do you REALLY think it’s acceptable for a female to be hounded, harassed and shouted at(most of it within her ‘personal space’) as she entered the workplace?

Would you deem it acceptable if it happened to your wife/partner as they attended work? You’d have no problem with 8-10 angry males haranguing her as she walked along the pavement?
Oddly when I asked that question not one if the Soubry haters could/would answer it, but if getting off on watching such behaviour is your thing I guess you won’t.

Saddos.
Well, that ploy didn't work then ....
Khandro,
Was the exact sane behaviour meted out to these two acceptable, right up to the point where they were punched, after which it was not so?:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48555889
So the nhs is gonna get all that money ...
weecalf, that was never promised.
chilldoubt, //Was the exact sane behaviour meted out to these two [homosexual couple attacked on a bus] acceptable, right up to the point where they were punched, after which it was not so?: //

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying so I can't answer your question. Rephrase please.


So they meant eu gets all that but the nhs will get what Boris ?
weecalf, they said the EU gets all that and suggested that it could instead go to the NHS. The people who wrote that slogan weren't in a position to promise anything. The claim that it was a promise always was daft.
I believed it was I not supposed too
If he wanted to have some chance of a successful prosecution the very least he needed was evidence of a lie rather than find something that was true and hope to find some way of twisting a claim of lying out of it. He should be prosecuted for attempted wasting of the valuable court's time and resource. And the district judge needs investigating too. I'd trust any remainer beliefs could not have formed part of any decision making process.
The NHS would get whatever portion of the saving, once things have settled down, that the government voted in by the people at that time choose to allocate to it. But surely that goes without saying. Public funds are allocated by government.
heaven forbid a politician should have to tell the truth. Could you imagine the chaos
weecalf. if you believed the money would go to the NHS instead of to the EU you misunderstood. Not to worry. You weren't alone.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying so I can't answer your question. Rephrase please.
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It really couldn’t be any clearer, it’s a simple question.......dodged rather poorly.

For the hard of understanding, these women were abused in a public place in almost exactly the same fashion as Soubry.
Do you consider that they too should just stand there and allow it to wash over them?
Yes or no?

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