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44 Suspects Arrested Over Sexual Abuse Of Girls In Yorkshire
//Officers have detained 36 men and three women from homes across Kirklees, Bradford and Leeds in the past two weeks.
Five other men were arrested last year in connection with the same investigation.//
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Five other men were arrested last year in connection with the same investigation.//
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It has taken a disgraceful amount of time for these cases to be properly investigated and is to be much applauded that action is being taken now.
The failure of the Police and other agencies to take this matter seriously condemned so many children to years of abuse.
I hope the abusers are now spending their time waiting for the knock on the door....
The failure of the Police and other agencies to take this matter seriously condemned so many children to years of abuse.
I hope the abusers are now spending their time waiting for the knock on the door....
this was allowed to fester for years, because of political correctness
and (community cohesion) or dont say anything less they riot and shout racists anti islam etc, but these crimes can be layed at the door of the religion itself, non muslim women are haram and good muslims must marry only muslims, speaks of non integration us and them and obviously there are perves withing that group as well.
and (community cohesion) or dont say anything less they riot and shout racists anti islam etc, but these crimes can be layed at the door of the religion itself, non muslim women are haram and good muslims must marry only muslims, speaks of non integration us and them and obviously there are perves withing that group as well.
They didn't investigate sexual abuse against minors when the abuser was white native British, either, or any race, colour or creed. Men (and a few women) could sexually abuse young girls and boys without fear of punishment. Children were prostituted back in the 70s to my knowledge and nothing was done. I reported a very young boy (under 12) who offered me a sexual act in a public toilet in 1984 for £5 and the authorities weren't interested even though I got his name and address. I reported it to the police and the social services. It haunts me to this day what that boy was living through and why he was so desperate for the money.
I am just thankful that times have changed and those responsible for abusing and prostituting children now and in the past are being prosecuted and those children are being taken seriously.
My friends were victims of this man and the difference his prosecution has made to their mental health and overall well-being is immeasurable. They are adamant that other teachers knew what was happening to them.
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I am just thankful that times have changed and those responsible for abusing and prostituting children now and in the past are being prosecuted and those children are being taken seriously.
My friends were victims of this man and the difference his prosecution has made to their mental health and overall well-being is immeasurable. They are adamant that other teachers knew what was happening to them.
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//It has taken a disgraceful amount of time for these cases to be properly investigated and is to be much applauded that action is being taken now//
The suppression of the scandal involved an extraordinary degree of complicity among all those who new what was going on. These groups included, at the very least, social services, the local police, the NUT and the NUJ.
But only very recently has it been claimed by Nazir Afzal (he's the Muslim prosecutor who managed to convict some of the Rochdale rapists (remember the "Three Girls" documentary?) in a BBC radio(?) interview that in 2008 Gordon Brown's Home Office knew about the rape gangs. This is what Mr Afzal is quoted as saying (with stress by me if I can manage it):
“You may not know this, but back in 2008 the Home office sent a circular to all police forces in the country saying ‘as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.’”
The suppression of the scandal involved an extraordinary degree of complicity among all those who new what was going on. These groups included, at the very least, social services, the local police, the NUT and the NUJ.
But only very recently has it been claimed by Nazir Afzal (he's the Muslim prosecutor who managed to convict some of the Rochdale rapists (remember the "Three Girls" documentary?) in a BBC radio(?) interview that in 2008 Gordon Brown's Home Office knew about the rape gangs. This is what Mr Afzal is quoted as saying (with stress by me if I can manage it):
“You may not know this, but back in 2008 the Home office sent a circular to all police forces in the country saying ‘as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.’”
How low can you go - making political capital out of this disgraceful affair. It happened under both main Party's auspices. To imply that Labour approves this sort of behaviour is unacceptable smearing. But it appears some people have no moral limits when it comes to supporting their own agenda (indeed, what did happen to honour and integrity).
I am convinced that these dreadful situations are allowed to exist, and continue, because of a complex set of circumstances.
One is clearly the prurient attitude of men in authority who regard young children engaged in sexual activity as basically without personal morals, and therefore not deserving of the protection of society in general, and the law in particular.
That combined with a peculiarly British tendency to ignore issues that make us uncomfortable - and nothing makes us more uncomfortable than sex - means that the men responsible can act with impunity, because people in authority don't wish to draw attention to themselves by actually standing up and saying that this behaviour is dreadfully wrong.
Until those in authority accept the deep responsibilities that accompany their roles and status, this kind of horrible abuse will continue.
One is clearly the prurient attitude of men in authority who regard young children engaged in sexual activity as basically without personal morals, and therefore not deserving of the protection of society in general, and the law in particular.
That combined with a peculiarly British tendency to ignore issues that make us uncomfortable - and nothing makes us more uncomfortable than sex - means that the men responsible can act with impunity, because people in authority don't wish to draw attention to themselves by actually standing up and saying that this behaviour is dreadfully wrong.
Until those in authority accept the deep responsibilities that accompany their roles and status, this kind of horrible abuse will continue.
Canary, //How low can you go //
When a Home Office circular carries the message, ‘as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.’”
... no lower. Confirming that they are being exploited but advising police to do nothing really does hit rock bottom.
When a Home Office circular carries the message, ‘as far as these young girls who are being exploited in towns and cities, we believe they have made an informed choice about their sexual behaviour and therefore it is not for you police officers to get involved in.’”
... no lower. Confirming that they are being exploited but advising police to do nothing really does hit rock bottom.
There is, as far as I can make out, no evidence that such a letter was ever sent by the Home Office. See, for example:
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Yes, the broader claim that the abuse was ignored, or overlooked, or not taken seriously, is true. But that can be fairly levelled without bringing in downright lies to the party, as v-e has done. No such letter was sent -- as the Home Office response points out, you can even check this for yourself: all circulars are freely available.
As I said Jim, who knows? BBC Radio 4 reported it in 2018. I don't think we should be too dismissive.
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I'll attempt to address the final part of the question as I've already made some calculations based on Rotherham (which has a much smaller Pakistani community than the regions mentioned here).
So, 'How many more?' -
Kirklees approx 39,000, Leeds approx 22,000, Bradford approx 68,000 (all totals for their Pakistani communities).
Half the total of 129,000 = 64,000 men and boys (approx).
One third of that figure = 21,333 men in the approx age range.
Between 18% and 25% of that figure = 3,840 to 5,333.
It could be many, many more, I always underplayed the data.
So, 'How many more?' -
Kirklees approx 39,000, Leeds approx 22,000, Bradford approx 68,000 (all totals for their Pakistani communities).
Half the total of 129,000 = 64,000 men and boys (approx).
One third of that figure = 21,333 men in the approx age range.
Between 18% and 25% of that figure = 3,840 to 5,333.
It could be many, many more, I always underplayed the data.
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