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With the Lib NonDems in a resurgent position as the natural party for remainers and Labour ever more un clear of their position and riddled with hard left and anti Semitic extremists, could the Lib NonDems replace them as the official opposition in the years to the next GE in 2022?
With the Lib NonDems in a resurgent position as the natural party for remainers and Labour ever more un clear of their position and riddled with hard left and anti Semitic extremists, could the Lib NonDems replace them as the official opposition in the years to the next GE in 2022?
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// You have a silver tongue TTT, and a way with words like no-one else. I will vote Labour.//
yeah agree - good example of the headline ( electing a leader of the opposition ) has nothing to do with the 'question' / text - will there be a resurgence of the lib Dems
heigh ho as Nigh says - Ab on a sunny afternoon
yeah agree - good example of the headline ( electing a leader of the opposition ) has nothing to do with the 'question' / text - will there be a resurgence of the lib Dems
heigh ho as Nigh says - Ab on a sunny afternoon
It’s not party shifting or blame shifting. You can’t shift the blame to those that cause the trouble because it’s firmly in their lap. And as it’s the hard left extremists that have caused the problems there is no shifting involved.
It’s only those doing the complaining that try to shift. It’s a back covering exercise.
Which bit of that don’t you understand Spath?
It’s only those doing the complaining that try to shift. It’s a back covering exercise.
Which bit of that don’t you understand Spath?
I often see Jim construct a decent argument or point, only to be shut down by an uneducated sometimes unrelated patronising comment which doesn't add to the discussion or even raise the points Jim does. either discuss and explain how he's wrong or leave him to add to the thread. Comments like "stop, you're spinning" is futile and leaves traces of contentiousness.
To get back to the OP and avoid 'traces of contentiousness' (what a strange phrase) I predict that Corbyn will be gone by the next election. His replacement will be from the right of the party who will wreak revenge. The wilderness awaits McDonnell, Abbot (Ph.D. pure mathematics) and the rest of the motley crew. As to the Libs supplanting Labour as the main opposition, please! After a spell in hospital I now have to wear a catheter and I don't want to split the bag laughing my socks off.
Spath, Jim said // If the Lib Dems win a democratic election then their policies will have been endorsed by the people, democratically. Which makes it democratic.//
Now replace ‘Lib Dems’ with Brexit Party – or even a ‘Leave the EU’ majority vote…and ask Jim if the same criteria, in his estimation, applies. Not to worry about asking. We know it doesn’t. He's made that abundantly clear.
I rest my case..
Jackdaw, I also suspect we're seeing the beginning of the end for Corbyn. I think many would like him out before the next election.
Now replace ‘Lib Dems’ with Brexit Party – or even a ‘Leave the EU’ majority vote…and ask Jim if the same criteria, in his estimation, applies. Not to worry about asking. We know it doesn’t. He's made that abundantly clear.
I rest my case..
Jackdaw, I also suspect we're seeing the beginning of the end for Corbyn. I think many would like him out before the next election.
"and ask Jim if the same criteria, in his estimation, applies. "
That is not true. I'm sure if the brexit party won a general election, Jim would accept that was a democratic result.
You ask'd me to ask him, then told me not to, because you told me what you think he thinks. Can i not just ask jim?
Jim said : "If the Lib Dems win a democratic election then their policies will have been endorsed by the people, democratically. Which makes it democratic."
And i have to say that is bang on, and true.
if the lib dems won a democratic election, it would be democratic.
That is not true. I'm sure if the brexit party won a general election, Jim would accept that was a democratic result.
You ask'd me to ask him, then told me not to, because you told me what you think he thinks. Can i not just ask jim?
Jim said : "If the Lib Dems win a democratic election then their policies will have been endorsed by the people, democratically. Which makes it democratic."
And i have to say that is bang on, and true.
if the lib dems won a democratic election, it would be democratic.
spath, //I'm sure if the brexit party won a general election, Jim would accept that was a democratic result. //
Why are you sure? Jim doesn't accept the EU 'Leave' vote. In that instance he says democracy doesn't mean what the rest of us think it means - and what he clearly thinks it means should the Lib Dems triumph.
Ask him what you like. Good luck.
Why are you sure? Jim doesn't accept the EU 'Leave' vote. In that instance he says democracy doesn't mean what the rest of us think it means - and what he clearly thinks it means should the Lib Dems triumph.
Ask him what you like. Good luck.
An election where elites lie to peasants to sway them to vote their direction, when in reality, nothing was certain, is in my opinion, not very morel. That is not democratic. Democracy is morel, where we vote for what we understand collectively. Not vote on a load of lies.
The vote was still so split.
The vote was still so split.
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