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Liberal Democrat's Meps Arrive At The European Parliament, Wearing Bright Yellow T-Shirts With '*** To Brexit' On The Back.
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//Same as I'm not sure that Brexit Party supporters would be too upset to see their MEPs show such scorn for the EU Parliament. //
I would be very upset if the Brexit party behaved as the LibDems are behaving. With that disgracefully tasteless slogan pasted on their T-shirts and their determination to deny democracy, they’re an embarrassment to this country.
Incidentally, the EU anthem - Ode to Joy. That's surely a joke.
I would be very upset if the Brexit party behaved as the LibDems are behaving. With that disgracefully tasteless slogan pasted on their T-shirts and their determination to deny democracy, they’re an embarrassment to this country.
Incidentally, the EU anthem - Ode to Joy. That's surely a joke.
I've already explained why. It's three years later already. There's no reason that this decision, or indeed any other decision, can't be revisited in light of what has happened since.
I mean fundamentally it's because we disagree on whether or not Brexit would be a bad thing. I should assume that if it was absolutely unambiguous that the country would be materially and permanently ruined if it were to carry out decision, then I don't think the determination to hold on to "democracy" would be quite so strong. It's a variation of that age-old question: "if 17,410,742 people asked you to jump off a cliff, would you still do it?" But if we can't agree on whether there's a cliff or not then no wonder we keep going round in circles.
I mean fundamentally it's because we disagree on whether or not Brexit would be a bad thing. I should assume that if it was absolutely unambiguous that the country would be materially and permanently ruined if it were to carry out decision, then I don't think the determination to hold on to "democracy" would be quite so strong. It's a variation of that age-old question: "if 17,410,742 people asked you to jump off a cliff, would you still do it?" But if we can't agree on whether there's a cliff or not then no wonder we keep going round in circles.
Jim, //There's no reason that this decision, or indeed any other decision, can't be revisited in light of what has happened since.//
But the LibDems aren’t ‘revisiting’ the question. They’re quite openly trampling on the result. Still, one thing can be said for them I suppose. They’re not disguising their betrayal under a plethora of disingenuous excuses.
Here’s a thought. You said elsewhere //If the Lib Dems win an election standing on a platform to reverse or Stop Brexit, then by definition that will have been arrived at by a democratic decision. So much, then, for "trampling on democracy".//
Take a look at the EU parliament where you’ll find that the largest elected group represents the Brexit party. That, by your definition, means that their presence is, as a result of a democratic decision, justified – hence you might say the question has been revisited. ‘Remain’ still lost.
But the LibDems aren’t ‘revisiting’ the question. They’re quite openly trampling on the result. Still, one thing can be said for them I suppose. They’re not disguising their betrayal under a plethora of disingenuous excuses.
Here’s a thought. You said elsewhere //If the Lib Dems win an election standing on a platform to reverse or Stop Brexit, then by definition that will have been arrived at by a democratic decision. So much, then, for "trampling on democracy".//
Take a look at the EU parliament where you’ll find that the largest elected group represents the Brexit party. That, by your definition, means that their presence is, as a result of a democratic decision, justified – hence you might say the question has been revisited. ‘Remain’ still lost.
Those questioning the Brexit Party's disrespect for turning their backs, perhaps England's football team at the 1936 Berlin Olympics, should have done the same, instead of giving the Nazi salute?
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People who voted for the Liberals in the most recent elections are hardly pro-Brexit, but by doing so, knowing the Liberals are actively anti-democracy speaking out and trying to thwart the referendum result, they are hardly democratically minded either.
It's three years of deliberate delay later. Every reason not to allow that anti-democratic tactic to change the result demanded by the people. To allow it would confirm in the strongest terms that our system is unfit for use. There'll be reason enough to revisit our situation when a) genuine Brexit has actually occurred and b) we've been outside the EU as long as we endured being part of it, in order to make a fair assessment.
It's three years of deliberate delay later. Every reason not to allow that anti-democratic tactic to change the result demanded by the people. To allow it would confirm in the strongest terms that our system is unfit for use. There'll be reason enough to revisit our situation when a) genuine Brexit has actually occurred and b) we've been outside the EU as long as we endured being part of it, in order to make a fair assessment.
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