Is The Spate Of Knife Crime Linked To Poverty And Deprivation?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/15/knife-crime-tory-austerity-sadiq-khan-london

We had very much poverty and deprivation at the end of WW2, but there was never the amount of killings by knife and guns that we see today.

[teacake44]

A north face sweatshirt is a top of the range clothing , that these thugs want, along with every thing else, but they don't care to work for it.

[spathiphyllum]

Oh but they do though don't they.. By shotting smack for the big boys.

[spathiphyllum]

"Shotting smack" - Define: Selling heroin for older boys, known as ring leaders. Shotting is the act of moving the heroin from the dealer to the buyer. Smack is heroin.

[naomi24]

spath, //Because it is expensive, and 'they'(being, gangsters or want to be hoodlems) wear it. //

Well, they should work for what they want. Don't make excuses for them. The world doesn't owe them a living.

[spathiphyllum]

Discussing the why's and hows isn't making excuses, it's simply opening their position up for more understanding. At the end of the day, we're born alone, we die alone, and in our minds we act alone. No one is to blame but themselves, but that doesn't mean tings didn't influence these youths to their actions.

[ummmm]

More money in drugs.

[naomi24]

spath, //that doesn't mean tings didn't influence these youths to their actions.//

We know things influence their actions – which leads us straight back to culture, environment and upbringing. Poverty isn’t the culprit.

[naomi24]

Exactly ummmm. As I said poverty isn't the culprit.

[youngmafbog]

Khant is looking to point the finger at the Tories.

The reality is perceived poverty is everywhere in the UK(Seems the definition is can't have the best of everything), if it was as he says we would have a real problem and we dont.

In addition I dont think you will find the murder rate is highest, it may be knives are used more now guns are banned and becoming increasingly difficult to get hold of. Plus of course caught with a knife it really is a slap on the wrist, caught with firearms and it's jail time.

[andres]

I don't know whether any of you have heard on the news today that Scotland now has the biggest drugs problem in Europe . Glasgow in particular. It is reaching epidemic levels and the Scottish government are asking Westminster for urgent help. Not long ago Glasgow was hailed as the city that had overcome its knife/gun problem.

[retrocop]

andres
Edinburgh was also once hailed as the AIDS capital of the UK along with Brighton. Both Dirty,shared syringes and unprotected sex .

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// I never said anything about poverty. austerity will take things like youth services, police and community support away from these youths. ///

Do you seriously think that these savage killers want more police on the streets or wish to go along to youth centres, so as to play a game of pool, or perhaps pop along to the local centre, so as to listen to lectures on the evils of drugs and knife crime or even join Scout groups?

[spathiphyllum]

I don't know AOG. Do you?