Can The Brexit Party Win The Brecon And Radnorshire By-Election ?

[Gromit]

It is a Tory seat, but the electorate voted to dump the sitting MP and trigger a by-Election. Thenthe Tories kept the same candidate.

Pro-EU parties have decided not to stand, to help the LibDems win.

The area voted Leave in the Referendum.

The Conservatives majority will be cut to 1 if they lose.

Any predictions ?

[ichkeria]

The fact that the Brexit party did not stand down in this seat speaks volumes.
Don’t forget that the bitterest contests during the referendum were between the two leave campaigns.
Anyway, even had there been no Brexit party candidate it would have been very close. All those labour votes can’t just have gone to the LibDems ;-)

[Old_Geezer]

It only says that the party isn't prepared to be "put back in it's box" by the Tories. Whist in return the Tories don't want to be depending on yet another party to get their plans through.

[ToraToraTora]

yes as predicted in the frst answer above (BA??) the Lib NonDems further their anti democracy cause.

[douglas9401]

Enjoy the knee in the nadgers, Tora, there will be other campaigns for you to get your excuses in first.

[gulliver1]

How Ya feeling this morning" Me Old China, " PMSL at the Result

[Spicerack]

The fiddler was put up as part of May's scorched earth policy.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm quite stunned by the amount of support for non democracy on this site.

[Khandro]

Yet another stupid idea of the May administration to have the sacked MP stand again for the conservative candidate.
+ Boris and Farage should make a pact not to field candidates in certain seats in future.

[ichkeria]

The problem he’s got with that is, there is a significant number of Tory voters who simply vote for the Brexit party in seats where there was no Tory candidate.
Aside from the probability that an electoral “agreement” with Farage would surely destroy the Tory party.
Anyway, there are signs Johnson is slowly waking up to the realities of Brexit, hinting he’d be in favour of a two year transition period after Brexit.
Sounds pretty much like the deal that dare not speak its name.

[Old_Geezer]

That suggestion would need take some persuasion as we've waited years to get out already and have near zero confidence any further delay wouldn't be just more ruse to remain. It's not reality it's more delay/avoidance. It'd take a good justification case to delay that long, and I don't envisage any likely. And can not be anything like May's pile of guano as that would cause ructions.

I see no reason to believe a pact with the BP would cause any more likelihood of destroying the Tory party than the pact with the DUP has. I think you're stating your hopes for avoidance rather than assessing the situation well.

[ichkeria]

You’d get Tory MPs and others who’d simply refuse to stand down etc. It would be a hell of a mess. And that’s even assuming that come an election the two parties would still be seeing eye to eye on Brexit. Arguably they don’t now anyway, just because the current cabinet is full of hardliners.

[Khandro]

OG, Boris isn't talking about a 2 year delay it's about a transition period after Brexit to sort things out, which would make sense for both sides, - that's as I understand it.

[jim360]

OG: // It was an expected result since remain parties agreed to cooperate and the leave ones, despite having more support, opted to push their individual interests. //

If only there were some alternative method of determining the winning candidate that removed such a "spoiler effect", eh?

[jim360]

// I'm quite stunned by the amount of support for non democracy on this site. //

I no, I was expecting there to be at least *one* AB member who is anti-democratic. Alas, seems like we're all pro-democracy after all :)

[ichkeria]

A two year transition period is exactly what was in Theresa May’s deal!
That’s why I said: “the deal that dare not speak its name”

[Khandro]

ichi ; //A two year transition period is exactly what was in Theresa May’s deal!//

Plus a few other things!

[gulliver1]

Jane Dodds, The New MP , for Lib Dems, says the first thing she is going to do when she arrives at the commons, is to grab Bonker Boris by the throat, and tell him to forget about No Deal Brexit. Good Girl .

[Baldric]

What she actually said was she was going to find Boris wherever he is hiding and tell him to forget about No Deal Brexit.

[hereIam]

Stand up to the silly moo Boris.

[Khandro]

Could be worth of a separate thread, but has Nigel scored a massive own goal, it seems now ironic that he is working against Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1160860/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-brexit-deal