Another refugee life saved.

[MsBadely]

I, for one, am proud of this nation and the way it opens it's arms to help poor refugees build a better life for themselves in this country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4446108.stm

[Buddy]

Makosi - quelle surprise!!

I can just about see your tonque firmly in your cheek MsBadely :)

[andizuki1982]

DISGRACEFUL!! Only a couple of weeks ago a young nurse got deported (i can`t remember where from) after 5 years here, in which time she trained and qualified in her chosen profession. And now Makosi who lets be fair is a lazy, lying, coniving money grabbing "C" grade celebrity gets to stay! To show how much she cared for her profession, she left it to go on Big Brother!

Sorry MsBadely but I have no respect for this nation!!

[Coobeastie]

I think there is a hint of sarcasm in msbadely post (or at least i hope there is).

[mimififi]

"Ms Musambasi, of High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire"

Top quote! I am relieved that we are not one of those nations that piles all its poor asylum seekers into Ghetto style housing, but that they are all given equal opportunities to experience a high quality like, in Buckinghamshire......

Shameful!

[kags]

So would you have her sent back to a country where she may be in danger of losing her liberty or her life, just because you don't approve of her lifestyle? Would this balance out the injustice suffered by the nurse referred to above?

Following on from this are we to change our asylum system in this country so that only those people whose moral code we approve of may be granted refuge, and everyone else should be shipped back to persecution and repression?

[vehelpfulguy]

Judging by the inner city crime in the UK, particularly racist crime (of all races and religions) she has more chance of coming to harm here than in the country we send he back to.

Yet again we prove ourselves to be one of the most gullible nations on earth.

[kags]

vehelpfulguy - do you know which country we are talking about here? Perhaps if you were to do some research on conditions in Zimbabwe you might rethink your statement that it is safer there than in this country.

[vehelpfulguy]

So it is safe to send asylum seekers back to Iraq is it, which we are doing now. You cannot tell me Iraq is any safer than Zimbabwe.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4447750.stm

But the point is where do we stop. If it is that dangerous in Zimbabwe why dont we take everyone from there, and every one from Iraq as well.

In fact most people in Africa are worse off than us, lets have them all here, and India is a poor country, lets have all them here as well.

We are not a charity, our country is a "business" trying to compete on the world market with all the other countries.

While we are taking thousands of so-called asylum seekers in and keeping them in hotels and giving them benefits, our jobs are going to India and China.

We have done our bit, we have more than enough immigrants and asylum seekers.

And how do they thank us, by shooting policemen in Bradford (police are looking for an asian man and two black men).

In the long term we will live to regret it.

[Don Quixote]

It is my understanding that most illegal immigrants don't come to the UK directly from the country from which they are seeking refuge. They pass through several 'safe' countries en route. Should the illegal immigrants not be returned either to the first safe country they passed through or at least to the last safe country they were in before arriving in the UK?

[sp1814]

vehelpfulguy

I hadn't realised that the black and Asian men suspected of shooting WPC Sharon Beshenivsky were asylum seekers.

That should really help speed up the investigation. Unless of course you're making the mistake of grouping black and Asian British citizens with immigrants and asylum seekers.

Immigrants like my mother have worked in our hospitals, cleaned our offices, looked after our children, built our roads and generally taken on jobs that we wouldn't want to do ourselves.

As a black British man who grew up near Bermondsy, with National Front and BNP pushing their literature through my letterbox, I feel disappointed that the 'send them all back' argument is still alive and well.

You really should remember that there are millions of hard working non-white members of the public and when a black man or an Asian commits a crime, WE feel as badly as you do.

If the killers were white (and honest, some white people DO commit crimes), what would you blame that on?

[kags]

vehelpfulguy - I am not disgareeing with you about the fact that Iraq is also a dangerous country. The asylum sysytem in this country leaves claimants powerless and desperate as they are forced to wait for months and years in uncertainty. The point I am making is that we should be devoting our efforts to making the system more efficient, giving understanding to those who are waiting for their claims to be heard and NOT complaining that someone whose claim has been legitimately heard and accepted should be "shipped back" just because we don't happen to like that person much.

I have worked with asylum seekers for 3 years, and can assure you that not one was "kept in a hotel", not one took "our jobs" as they are not permitted to work, and they are given benefits equating to 70% of the subsistence level given to UK citizens on benefits.

And your comments about the shooting in Bradford, I am afraid, fully reveal your ignorance and prejudice on the matter of race.

[vehelpfulguy]

>And your comments about the shooting in Bradford, I >am afraid, fully reveal your ignorance and prejudice on >the matter of race.

Fact - the men who the police were looking for in Bradford were Asian and Black.

Fact - Where I live in the Midlands we have had a number of black on black shootings in the last few years, including the girls shot around Christmas a few years ago.

Fact - The police have a special group called Operation Trident that looks after nothing but black on black shootings.

Fact - The black population of the UK is 2%, the Black prison population in the UK is 11%.

An earlier appender, sp1814, says many immigrants have come here and worked in hospitals and cleaned offices.

Yes they have, but would be willing to forgo all that if I did not have to read in my paper almost every day of another black on black shooting, or the black drug dealers.

Overall I think we have got the bad end of the deal.

[kags]

The police officer happened to be white, in the same way the criminals happened not to be. What then if the victim was black and the killer white? Would she have deserved what she got for the fact that her parents or grandparents came to live and work in this country perhaps 50 years ago?